Hey Andy,
Where can I get a
"bill of materials" for a Monkey Bridge… That is, a list of
poles (including length and diameter), ropes (same measurements)
and any other items needed to complete the bridge? (Bob Schatke,
ASM, Grand Canyon Council, AZ)
Right here:
http://www.netwoods.com/monkeybr/monkeybr.html
-- It’s written by none other than "Green Bar Bill" Hillcourt!
It just doesn't get any better than that!
Dear
Andy,
Who would
I contact about proposing a revision to a BSA book? (Alex
Segneri, Blackhawk Area Council, IL)
I'd suggest
writing to the BSA National Office in
Irving, Texas. Before doing so, you might want to give
them a call, and ask for the name of the best person to whom
your letter might be addressed, depending on the book that you
believe needs revising.
Dear Andy,
Is it possible to
email the Philmont High Adventure Camp store to possibly
purchase a gift card for a Scout who will be going to Philmont?
Is there a place on the web where one can go and browse the
items for sale at Philmont? (Pete Goodman, Great Rivers Council,
MO)
Just check out
http://www.toothoftimetraders.com/philmont/ and I'll
bet you'll find just what you're looking for!
Hey Andy,
As I read your
considerable archive of advice, I note that the most intractable
situations brought to you for mentoring involve leaders with
some serious blind spots—They seem to be caught in a cul-de-sac
of their own importance and their own way of doing things, at
the cost of their unit's program. While everyone around them
sees they’re missing the point, they don’t—They’ve developed a
blind spot. The BSA has a terrific self-assessment tool at
www.scouting.org/boyscouts/training/start.jsp
Following the
steps there can help adult volunteers get a read on their
effectiveness. It even suggests training based on the
assessment.
Based on your wide
experience, how would you suggest a leader assess his or her own
effectiveness and, more importantly, determine whether or not
they’ve developed a blind spot that’s undermining the aims of
Scouting? (Clarke Green)
Thanks for
telling me about that self-assessment site. I tried it myself,
and I'm happy to tell you that I sure wasn't "perfect"! Even
just the questions alone gave me hints as to stuff I didn't know
or was less than sure of! It's fun to do, thought-provoking,
and I'd sure recommend it to anyone who's open-minded about
their "Scouting expertise."
Yes, your
assessment that considerable problems that I'm written to about
have to do with self-important volunteers who do things their
own way, somehow thinking that they know better than the entire
world-wide Scouting program of nearly ten decades' experience.
Interestingly, when this happens, it most often is in the arena
of Boy Scout advancement and almost always has to do with
putting stumbling blocks, hurdles, and other arbitrary barriers
in front of enthusiastic boys. This is certainly a "blind
spot," and it’s not easily excised or repaired, because these
self-appointed demigods have already (and often long ago)
convinced themselves of their ultimate rightness (if not
righteousness).
Unfortunately,
I'm becoming a believer that blind spots, like cancers (in more
ways than one!) are virtually incurable. However, I also
believe that, just as with biologic diseases, preventative
measures can be taken—must be taken—if we volunteers wish
to deliver the Scouting program as it's intended. Some of the
ways to prevent blind spots, I believe, are to stay in touch
with "the big picture" by going to Round Tables, so we can
interact with others with both less and more experience than
ourselves, by re-taking training courses, even if just for the
sake of charging your batteries (who knows—we may pick up
something we didn't know, or thought we knew but didn't have
quite right), getting on a training team for new Scouting
volunteers, and pick a subject we don't know, training our own
Assistant Scoutmasters and then stepping back while they pick up
significant responsibilities! These are some of the things we
all can do, I think, that help prevent those blind spots!
Dear Andy,
I have two
questions regarding Troop-Master software. First, I took Scout
Leadership Fundamentals—What does that equate to in
Troop-Master? Second, one of our leaders took Outdoor
Leadership Training—What does that equate to in Troop-Master?
(Suzette Juel, MC, Mid-America Council, IA)
Ah-Ha! You've
just unearthed a "knowledge vacuum" of mine! I'll confess right
here and now that I have so little experience using Troop-Master
that I'd be "the blind leading the blind"! I think your best
resource here would likely be your District Executive. He or
she most likely uses this software to re-register your unit
every year, and will most likely be able to point you in the
right direction.
Dear Andy,
In my troop, we’re
trying to create an advancement book for the Scouts and their
parents to keep records, etc. I would like to find a single,
one-page listing of advancement requirements to print for this
book. Any advice on where to look?
(David Keith, SM, Grand Canyon Council, AZ)
For a set of
rank-by-rank advancement requirement summary pages, that both
Scouts and parents can use to keep track of what's been done and
signed off, and what still needs to be done, turn to pages 438
through 449 in the BOY SCOUT HANDBOOK. Nope, I'm not
joking or pulling your leg—This is absolutely the very easiest
and best place for record-keeping and next task tracking! And,
it's already done for you!
This is a
"wheel" that's already been invented. Now you might invent a
different one, but it's pretty unlikely that you'll invent a
better one!
If you're
looking for a way for Scouts to keep their advancement cards,
merit badge "blue cards" and certificates, and so forth in good
shape and all in one place, try the plastic "pocket pages" for
baseball cards that can be bought at most
sports memorabilia stores.
These work great and they're just the right size!
Hi Andy,
I'm turning 18 in
a few weeks. I’ve just been told by the wife of my Scoutmaster
that he’s leaving town for two weeks, and if I wait for his
return that gives me only two weeks to do my Eagle project,
which would be impossible. Can I get the signature from an
Assistant Scoutmaster instead of my Scoutmaster (Scout’s Name
Withheld, Orange County Council, CA)
You've probably
already learned from reading and beginning to fill in the blanks
of your Eagle Scout Leadership Project Workbook that you need
four signatures in order to actually begin the work on your
project (this is, of course, after you've already developed your
project goals, plan, timetable, etc.). The four signatures are:
Representative of the recipient of your project (this one's
first), unit committee member (usually your Troop's advancement
chair, but this isn't mandatory—it can be any troop
committee member), Scoutmaster, and representative of your
district/council (usually an adult Scouting volunteer who's
chair or a member of your district's or council's advancement
committee). If your Scoutmaster will be unavailable to sign at
the time you and he have already agreed that you'll be
submitting your workbook to him for his signature, I'm sure he
can designate an alternate (an Assistant Scoutmaster is a
logical choice). But, you and your Scoutmaster need to have a
personal and very specific conversation about this, so that
there are no misunderstandings.
A further
thought: If you're truly going to have a "time crunch" here, all
you need to do is develop a project that can be completed in
less than two weeks. This isn't impossible! I've seen fully
qualified Eagle Service Projects that took exactly one day of
actual in-the-field labor (sure, it took a lot of helpers, but
it still got done in one day)!
Dear Andy,
I need to know the
best and quickest way to do plaster casting of animal tracks. Do
you have any ideas? (Connie Mangano)
Get some
cardboard (a maybe 2" strip that, when formed into a circle,
will surround a single track), a box of some good old Plaster of
Paris at your local hardware or hobby store, a stir stick or
disposable plastic spoon, a paper cup, some water, and some tape
to secure the two ends of the cardboard to one another, to form
the circle.
Assemble the
circle and put the cardboard ring around the track, being
careful not to cave in the sides of the track or otherwise
deform it.
With water, the
paper cup, and the stir stick or spoon, mix up—by eyeballing
it—enough plaster to fill the track and the cardboard collar up
to about an inch from the 2" high side. Follow mixing
directions on the box. Don't "beat" the water-plaster
combination—You want as few air bubbles in it as possible.
You'll want a consistency that's pourable—It'll be about as
thick as melted ice cream. It's
sort of like making a chef's roux.
Pour the
plaster concoction into the collar, s-l-o-w-l-y so as to have as
few air bubbles in it as possible.
Wait.
Then wait some more, till the instructions on the box tell you
it's probably "set."
Pick up the
entire collar-and-plaster, turn it over, and with a small
bristle paint brush, brush off
any dirt or debris (you can actually wash it off, after removing
the collar, but be darned sure it's dry, first)!
On the flat
part that's now the underside, write the date and location of
your newest artifact.
Last step: Grin
with pride at your handiwork!
Dear Andy,
Can an adult earn
the RECRUITER patch if he or she recruits a new boy into
Scouting, or this a youth-only patch? (Mark Kopel,
Atlanta Area Council, GA)
Check the BSA's
INSIGNIA GUIDE (it's a booklet you can buy for a coupla bucks),
because one of my New Year's resolutions was to resign from the
"Patch Police." (Just kidding!)
According to
that guide I mentioned, it looks like this is a recognition for
Cub and Webelos Scouts, and Boy Scouts. Whether it applies to
adults, too, looks to be a "gray area." I'd say use your own
good judgment, but I'd also add that my own sense about this
says that, as an adult, I'm not sure I'd want to be wearing a
kids' recognition. Your call…
Dear Andy,
Concerning troop
committee meetings, do the Scoutmaster and Senior Patrol Leader
have to attend the entire meeting, or can they attend just part
of it? And, are they expected to attend every meeting? (Laura
Hendrix, South Plains Council, TX)
The SM and SPL
absolutely don’t have to sit through the entire troop committee
meeting! In the first place, neither of them is a member of the
committee—They're only there to keep the committee up-to-date on
what's happening with the troop's program, activities, and
events, so that the committee can support this program. If I
were the troop committee chair, I’d put the SM and SPL right up
front on the agenda, so they can fill the committee in, and then
they're free to go while the committee works out the details of
what needs to be done, and who's going to do it.
Dear Andy,
At a College of
Commissioner Science, can a professional meet the requirement
of having earned the Arrowhead to qualify in the CCS Masters
degree? Do professionals qualify for the requirement of being a
registered Commissioner? (Garry Winchester, Southeast Louisiana
Council, LA)
Sure, a BSA
professional staffer can complete the requirements for the
Commissioner's Arrowhead Honor, but only registered volunteers
who hold the position (and wear the badge) of Commissioner get
to actually receive the certificate and wear the Arrowhead
itself. BSA professionals who are also registered volunteers
might hold a variety of positions, including Cubmaster, Den
Leader, Scoutmaster, or unit committee member, but it would be
inappropriate for them to be registered as or function as
Commissioners because this simply makes no sense. In fact,
regardless of the volunteer position held by a BSA professional,
it actually encroaches on the paid job they're supposed to be
doing.
Now as far as
earning "Commissioner's Degrees" in a Commissioner College,
while you might want to give them an honorary certificate or
"degree," we need to remember that the "college" concept is used
to draw volunteers to training and keep them coming back. In
this light, a BSA professional who has a personal mission to
"earn his degree" (of whatever level) is really being a little
bit silly. This stuff is for the volunteers. Professionals
have their own so-called “Darth Vader Square Knot” that they can
earn!
Dear Andy,
What are your
thoughts on the Star and Life leadership position requirement
clause: “…or carry out a Scoutmaster-assigned leadership project
to help the troop?” Our troop, like many, has more Scouts than
leadership positions. There are several parents leaning on the
Scoutmaster to assign their sons a position to allow them to
advance. While we don’t want to be a barrier to advancement,
we’re unclear on what type of assigned leadership projects might
be appropriate and if the assignments should immediately be
offered to any Scout requesting a leader position. (Marc
Stewart, MC, Ouachita Area Council, AR)
Troops will
always, I hope, have more Scouts than leadership positions. But,
in a Troop of, let's say 34 (because that's close to B-P's
"ideal size" for a Troop) there would be one SPL, maybe two
ASPLs, four PLs, one QM, one Historian, one Scribe, one
Librarian, 1 Chaplain Aide, and one Order of the Arrow Troop
Representative—That's 13 right there, plus an unlimited number
of Den Chiefs and Instructors and JASMs (although I’d hope that
your JASMs are already Eagles!), and Troop Guides (one for every
new Scout patrol). These could realistically account for
upwards of 75% of all the Scouts in the Troop. So are you
telling me that 75% of the Scouts in your own Troop are First
Class, Star, or Life? If not, then you actually don't have more
leadership positions than eligible Scouts ("eligible" is the
operative factor here, don't you think?).
To my way of
thinking, leadership positions are aspirational—They are
something to be earned. The earning occurs not while "on the
job"—That's how we keep our positions! The earning comes
before that, and to get the job—whether it's elected or
appointed—a Scout will want to demonstrate that he's got the
right stuff in him to handle the job and do it well. After all,
Scouts don't elect to the position of their own Patrol Leader a
goof-off who shirks his responsibilities, doesn't show up, walks
around wearing a frown, and argues with everybody at every
opportunity. And Scoutmasters don't appoint to the position of,
say, Scribe, Quartermaster, or Historian a goof-off who... well,
you get the idea. In short, the Troop doesn't "owe" any Scout a
leadership position just because he wants it, or even needs it
to advance in rank. Scouting is not about advancing in
rank—This is merely one of eight (count 'em--EIGHT!) different
methods Scouting uses to grow boys into happy, responsible,
contributing citizens who know how to make good decisions when
the chips are down. Having to wait for a leadership position to
“open up” and then “campaign” for it not by rhetoric but by
showing by your behavior that you’ve got the right stuff for the
job is more than a “Scouting lesson” – It’s a LIFE LESSON!
That said, if a
Troop truly has something that needs doing, that doesn't fall
naturally into any of the leadership positions in the Troop,
then the Scoutmaster can definitely pick the Scout whom he
believes can do the job, and ask him to tackle it.
As for parents
"leaning on" any Scoutmaster over something like this, so that
their sons can get their next rank, sit 'em down and tell 'em
flat out: "Your little Johnny will earn himself a leadership
position in the Troop when he demonstrates to his fellow Scouts,
and me, that he can handle it. Yes, I'll train him when he's
earned the right to have the job, but until then, what Johnny
needs to do is show every Scout, and me, that he lives that
Scout Oath and Law in his everyday life. Say, do you know the
12 points of the Scout Law? No? Well, here they are... And
here are some of the specific things Johnny can start doing, to
tell everyone he's ready..."
So, just
because a Scout asks for a leadership position or a special
leadership assignment doesn't mean he's going to get it, any
more than my wishing for an Aston Martin just like 007's this
Christmas is any guarantee that I'm going to get it! Besides,
this puts all the work on the Scoutmaster! And he's got plenty
to do already! That said, if I were the SM and a Scout came to
me and said, "Say Andy, this Troop needs more money, so we
can buy new Patrol tents. To do that, we need a new fundraiser.
Well, I have an idea for one that I think would be good. Here's
how it would work... Now somebody will have to put it all
together and make it happen, and since I came up with the idea,
if you like it, I'm ready to run it!" guess what would
happen? You're right, we'd have a fundraiser, this Scout would
be in charge of it, and you're darned right I'd tell him (when
the job's done, and only then!) that he's just completed his
leadership requirement for his next rank!
Dear Andy,
Does BSA have any
specific by laws about how often a troop must conduct boards of
review? We’re in a situation were our son has completed all his
requirements for all ranks through and including First Class,
but the troop has had only two boards of review in the past
eight months (one of those was for a Scout who was moving, so
they held the board of review on his last day in town, and only
this Scout was reviewed; the second was held about four months
ago and our son was unable to attend due to a conflicting
mandatory school function). Our son has repeatedly asked for a
review, and he’s been told, "It’ll be the first of the month,"
but then nothing comes to pass. The troop states that boards of
review are to be held the first Monday of every month, yet this
hasn’t been the case—either meetings are canceled or the adults
just refuse to do reviews.
At this point,
we’re planning to transfer troops; however, we’d like to not
have to start over or to try and explain why every requirement
for Tenderfoot, Second Class, and First Class is signed off, yet
our son’s still just a Scout. Please advise as to what we
should do. (Jennifer Muench, Cape Fear Council, NC)
Yes, by all
means, get your son out of that Troop and into a Troop that
"gets it"—The one he's in doesn't. The disservice they're doing
to the boys and young men in their charge is nothing less than
reprehensible.
The
Scoutmaster Handbook (1998 Edition, page 122) clearly
states: "A troop should schedule its boards of review to occur
on a regular basis so that Scouts and leaders can plan for them
well in advance," and the Troop Committee Guidebook (1990
Edition, 1991 Printing, page 30) states that the duty of the
troop advancement chair is to "arrange and conduct monthly
troop boards of review."
The dunderheads running your son's
present troop either don't know these fundamentals or, knowing
them, ignore them. Regardless of which it is, they're wrong,
wrong, wrong.
That said, be
absolutely sure that your son's new troop isn't the same or
worse than the one he's in now. You have every right to
interview the Scoutmaster and committee chair, to determine
whether or not they're delivering the Scouting program the way
it's supposed to be delivered. If it's not, continue your
search till you find one that does.
What most
parents fail to realize is that they're not the supplicants,
subject to the whims, wanderings and wrongdoings of a misguided
troop. The fact is, the troop and its leaders serve at the
pleasure of the Scouts and their parents. It's the latter who
are truly in change, not the former, because the Scouts
ultimately "vote with their feet"—If the troop isn't delivering
the Scouting program as written, your son and you have every
right to WALK AWAY.
Now here’s the
good news: When your son shows his new Scoutmaster his Boy
Scout Handbook, with all those requirements signed off, he
should be granted a board of review right away—no “explanation”
other than the truth needed here. And your son will absolutely
not have to “go back to square one” or repeat any of the
requirements!
Hey Andy,
I have a
question relating to how members of an Eagle rank board of
review should dress. In one of your columns a while back, you
mentioned suit and tie, which I understand for those who aren’t
registered Scouters, but shouldn’t the registered Scouters be in
their full "Class A" uniforms? All of a sudden, this is an issue
in my district, and I don’t know what national policy is on the
subject. (Don McMahon,
District Advancement Chair & ASM, Theodore Roosevelt
Council, NY)
First, let's
make sure we've properly covered the Scout himself. The only
actual "rule" for an Eagle Scout
candidate (or a candidate for any other rank, for that
matter) is that "The Scout should be neat in his appearance and
his uniform should be as correct as possible." This means that
a board of review cannot "demand" that a Scout be in full,
complete, and correct uniform, but a board can certainly express
its expectations beforehand, so that the Scout fully understands
what is anticipated (this is something worth covering at the
tail-end of his Scoutmaster's Conference, beginning with the
foundational ranks).
As for the
members of an Eagle board of review, those who are registered
Scouters certainly have the option of wearing their uniforms
(one would hope they have the good sense to wear them completely
and correctly!), if they have them, but it's not a mandatory
thing. This option is a good one, and I'd heartily recommend
it, but it's ultimately an individual decision. Jackets and
ties (weather and circumstances permitting, of course) are, to
my own way of thinking, in order, because we're not talking
about chopped liver here—we're talking about the highest rank in
Scouting, one recognized by colleges and universities, the
military (I'm told that Eagle Scouts are automatically jumped
one pay-grade on the spot), and around the world in many other
venues.
Keep in mind
that unit leaders and Commissioners are 99 percent the
“uniformed adults” in a council; few if any other positions
require a uniform.
Dear Andy,
I’ve been
wondering why the District Award of Merit “square knot” isn’t a
square knot—it’s an overhand knot and the rest are square knots.
(Dwayne Settle, CM, Dan Beard Council, OH)
My “unofficial
guess” is this: All “square knot” badges represent either
“National” or “National-presented-by-Council” recognitions,
whereas the D-A-M is a recognition presented at the District
level by a Council. In other words, it’s one step
down from the “square knots,” making the overhand knot an
appropriate representation of that level.
Dear Andy,
I'm hoping you can
help me. My son is a Bear Cub Scout. He started Scouts last
year and completed Wolf. He’s wondering, and so am I, if
there’s any way he can earn his Tiger Cub badge. (Tawnya
Hulstrom, Shawnee Trails Council, KY)
Believe it or
not, you'd actually be doing your son a disservice to try to go
back and have him earn a Tiger Cub badge! That's because Cub
Scouting is grade- and age-specific. Tiger Cub stuff is now
"little-kids' stuff" for your son! There's no challenge, and no
possibility for personal growth. All he'd wind up with is a
little piece of cloth, and I guarantee you that it's not worth
it! Instead of going backwards, help him direct his focus and
energies on earning his Bear badge and then Bear-level Arrow
Points, and forget Tiger Cub stuff—He's way beyond that, now.
Dear Andy,
A
search of the net shows plenty of opinions but nothing I can
find officially regarding a policy of how many scouts to a tent.
Also, what about parents who want to camp with the troop and
have their son bunk in with them instead of another Scout? I
know the BSA policy is that the only adult a Scout can sleep in
the same tent with is his parent, but they are using this as a
justification that they can always bunk with their son? (Jay
Roddy, Texas)
Two-man tents,
which is what your troop should be using, because they can be
broken down into two bundles of approximately equal weight, for
Scout buddies to carry in their backpacks, hold two Scouts each.
The BSA book,
Guide to Safe Scouting, contains all the policies and
procedures you need, except that it doesn't address the issue of
stupid, clingy parents who intend to emotionally cripple their
sons and make them pariahs among their peers. Unless the
campout is specifically a "family camping"-type of event, having
a Boy Scout sleep in the same tent as his parent while his
fellow Scouts are tented together is about as dumb as they come.
Boy Scouting is
all about experiencing ever-growing independence; not
continuing dependence!
Solution:
- Get two-man
tents and insist that all of your Scouts use these.
- If parents "come
along for the ride," then they must camp out of sight of
the Scouts. (In fact, all adults except maybe the
Scoutmaster should be camping/tenting out of sight of the
Scouts.)
- Make it a troop
“tradition” that any parent who comes along on a camp-out
automatically becomes a member of the "old goat patrol" and is
assigned duties that must be performed (stove-tender, cook,
clean-up, etc., etc.)—no exceptions.
Dear Andy,
I need help! My
son joined a Boy Scout troop a year and a half ago. He earned
Tenderfoot rank and then started on Second Class, completing
those requirements. But when he went for his board of review,
the troop’s advancement chair stared asking questions on
requirements, in effect re-testing him. He did know the
answers, so his review was successful, but then, a couple of
weeks later, the advancement chair cornered me (we were at a
committee meeting—I’m a committee member) and announced that my
son was “mentally disabled” (her words) and that the only way
she’d “allow” him to advance further in rank was if I submitted
a medical form describing his condition. I discussed this with
my doctor and he has no explanation for why my son would be
described this way. Academically, he’s above-average.
When I went back
to the advancement chair and told her that all she did was
retest him on requirements he’d already completed, she replied,
"I didn't think that you’d find that out," and went on to say
that she had to ask those questions to fill time , because she
didn't know what else to ask him.
I can’t face ever
sending my son into a room with this woman again—advancement
chair or not! I’ve read that she shouldn’t be the one to decide
if my son advances or not, that that’s the role of the committee
chair, but I don’t feel like bringing this up at a committee
meeting.
I’ve been trying
to get information about Lone Scouting from my council—I’ve
contacted them six times by phone or email and they haven’t to
answer me. What should I do? (Edited for brevity and
anonymity-Name & Council Withheld)
Your son can
become a Lone Scout, but I wouldn't recommend this, because
there's simply too much value in associating with peers and
learning from good adult role models by being a member of a
patrol within a troop. So, my recommendation is that you find
another nearby troop for your son—one in which he can
flourish—right away.
Dear Andy,
My son is
completing his First Class requirements. He has been able to do
some service hours for a local food bank and has helped an older
boy with his Eagle project. Can we include these service hours
to go on his Star requirements even though he’s not at that
level yet? (Laura Hendrix, South Plains Council, TX)
Read the
wording of Star requirement 4. It begins, "While a First
Class Scout..." The language and wording of requirements
like these will usually be very precise (as this one is) so that
there's no confusion as to what it means. And, in this case,
what it means is that your son needs to be First Class rank
before he starts on his non-merit badge oriented Star
requirements.
Also, just a
word to the wise... He'll want to be sure that he gets his
Scoutmaster's approval for service projects before he
puts in the time (again, it's right there in the requirement).
Dear Andy,
Can activities
within the Cub Scout Bear Book that are used for Bear
achievements be substituted with activities developed by the Den
Leader? (Brian Arnold, Flint River Council, GA)
Nope. Now I'll
bet you'd like a little more than that, so I'll tell you that
it's in writing, by the BSA, and it's a very simple statement
that no requirement can be changed in any way by anyone. This
means no "substitutions."
Dear Andy,
Who owns a unit’s
bank account? When major issues arose between our troop’s
chartered organization and the Cub Scout pack they also sponsor,
they pulled our charter, too. Now they’ve decided that they
want us back. But because we’ve had nothing but battles with
them, our troop committee decided to seek an entirely new
chartered organization, and we’re on the cusp of accepting an
offer. Meanwhile, our former CO has told us that all of the
gear (chuck boxes, lanterns, ice chests…a whole shed full of
stuff!) that we’d worked hard to obtain is the CO’s property and
theirs to keep.
Although I hate to
think that we’ll have to start over with no gear, I'm resigned
to that fact if they do, indeed, intend to keep it. But I do
have a major problem when they said that they’re also allowed to
keep our troop’s bank account. This account has over $800 in
individual Scout accounts from popcorn sales and such, plus
another $500 in general funds. The former CO never had anyone
who was a signatory on the account, nor have they ever made any
contributions to it—What right do they have to lay claim to that
money? (CC, San Diego-Imperial Council, CA)
Ouch! You may
want to consider getting your council's professionals in the
loop on this one, because it's messy. The general rule of thumb
is that, since the charter for the Scouting unit is held by the
sponsor, the sponsor effectively owns the unit and this
translates into owning all of the unit’s "stuff"—stuff can be
tents and such, but it can be money, too. So, for the bank
account, you might want to consider spending it on the Scouts
who earned it, and just make it all go away. When there’s no
money, avarice usually evaporates. As for the gear, this may be
the “hostage” your former CO is using to lure you all back. So
remember: It’s just “stuff.”
Dear Andy,
One of the troops
in my area traditionally has a competition for its Scouts to
design a new activity tee-shirt in advance of each summer camp,
to then be worn at camp and at other times when a full uniform
isn’t required. The most recent design they had was a
camouflage design with the troop number on it. Someone who saw
the shirt commented that the use of a camouflage design in
connection with any sort of Scouting activity is prohibited by
BSA. To be clear, the Scouts were wearing only a camouflage
shirt—the pants or shorts were neither BSA nor camo. As an
Assistant District Commissioner, what should my “position” be?
(James Bova, ADC, Patriots Path Council, NJ)
It takes two
steps to get to the central issue. First step: There's a BSA
policy that says that no apparel in imitation of a military
uniform may be worn. Second step: Camouflage is worn by the US
Army and National Guard—It is, in fact, their full-time
uniform. Therefore camouflage apparel worn by Scouts can be
taken to be in imitation of military uniforming.
Would I go on a
"shirt-burning mission" over this? Probably not. But I would
probably try to find a way to tell the Troop's adult leaders
that what they allowed was a pretty dumb idea, not to be
repeated when the competition comes around next year! The
smarter idea is to dress Scouts with as much bright color as
possible—they’re much, much easier to spot that way! (My own
troop wore neon green neckerchiefs, with black borders—Boy did
that make my job as Scoutmaster at summer camp a breeze!)
ADDENDUM: It’s
painful for me to point this out but I’d rather do it first —on
a recent visit to Philmont, I visited the “Tooth of Time
Traders” Scout shop there and, lo and behold, guess what I
found… Yup, Philmont caps and tee-shirts in camo. So butter my
noggin an’ call me corn bread—There’s just no winnin’ fer losin’!
Dear Andy,
Were can
I find out what the themes are for 2008 for Boy Scout Round
Tables? (Jill Richardson, District Chairman,
Redwood Empire
Council, WA)
Check in your
Scout Shop, or with your District Executive.
Dear Andy,
I’m looking for a
book or magazine that has a list and pictures of all the badges,
pins, patches, etc. available for Cub Scouts. I want the boys in
our pack to get everything they earn. (Tony Verhaeg, CM, Twin
Rivers Council, NY)
At the
usscouts.org
website, click on "advancement" and then "Cub Scout" to find
everything you want! That said, do keep in mind that much of
Cub Scouting advancement is done between the boy and his parents
and that it's not the pack's responsibility to assure
advancement or awards. It is, however, the pack's
responsibility to make sure the boys receive recognition for all
of their accomplishments with their parents and in their dens!
Dear
Andy,
I
recently learned that that one of my new Tiger Cub parents was a
Scout in Ireland and earned the Chief Scout’s
Award—the equivalent of the BSA’s Eagle Scout. Obviously, my
first reaction was to recruit him as Assistant Cubmaster for my
pack, which he was eager to accept. He asked me if he could
wear his Chief Scout Award pendant
(picture provided)
as part of his Cub Scout leader uniform. I think that he
should, given his pride and its significance, but want to be
certain there aren’t
any restrictions to wearing awards from another Scouting
organization. (Austin Roy, CM,
Yankee Clipper Council, MA/NH)
The BSA is
sensible enough to state that there are "notable exceptions" to
the general rule of "no badges of other organizations are to be
worn on a BSA uniform" and I'd without hesitation say that a
Chief Scout's Award is one of these! Ask your Irish colleague
to wear his with pride!
Dear Andy,
I’ve heard that Merit
Badge Counselors for specific badges will need to be
certified in that area—as experts, if you will—before they may
re-register for the upcoming year. For example, I’ve been told
that Shooting Sport MBCs must be NRA certified. No one,
including those who I’ve heard this from, can tell me where to
find exactly what training a MBC needs for each badge, and the
national office hasn’t responded to my email request for
information. I’d appreciate any help you can give me. (Lori
Carson, MBC, Tidewater Council, VA)
You haven't heard from the National Council most likely because
the they don't approve Merit Badge
Counselors. This is the responsibility of local
councils. The best person to ask is your own council's
advancement chair or "Merit Badge Dean," as they're often
called. This will be a volunteer; not someone working at your
council service center.
Dear Andy,
I'm a parent of a
Wolf Cub and have a question on the Progress Towards Rank badge
recall. They’ve been found to contain lead in the yellow & blue
paint and were sold from 2000 to 2007. There have been 1.6
million of these voluntarily recalled by the manufacturer. My
question is: How many pack leaders know of this and are our
badges potentially part of this recall? (Dawn Tacker,
Chickasaw Council, TN
Regarding those recalled P-T-R plastic hangy things, the BSA
sent out a broadcast notice via email, all local councils have
done the same, and it's been on the TV news shows around the
country. So, there's a pretty decent chance most leaders and
parents have been exposed to the message. As to whether the
badges you bought in 2000-2007 are or aren't part of the recall,
your very best bet is to check with the Scout Shop where you
bought them.
Dear Andy,
I have a friend who has his BSA
Lifeguard, and he’d like to know if it needs to renewed.
Kathleen Nagle, parent, Hawk Mountain Council, PA)
The date for renewal is stated on his BSA Lifeguard card.
Dear Andy,
Can a Scout wear his uniform while doing troop fund-raising,
such as selling candy bars or
candles? (Leon Popec)
Nope.
Dear Andy,
In the past, I’ve found the online Eagle project workbook, but
my current efforts to find this publication on
usscouts.org
have failed. Can you please tell me how I can find it ASAP?
(Michael James)
Just Google "eagle
project workbook" or go to the NESA website.
Dear Andy,
Maybe this is a council-specific question, but hopefully you
will have a simple answer. After a five-year hiatus from
Scouting in which I went from active Eagle Scout to high school
biology teacher, I’ve decided to re-register with my old troop
as an ASM. In addition, I’ve signed up as a Merit
Badge Counselor for Bird Study and Environmental
Science. I’m told that I won’t receive any written or verbal
notification from my council as to my approval. Should there be
some way to check, short of actually driving to the office and
asking the secretary? Do
councils usually maintain some sort of publicly-accessible list
somewhere? (Dan, Northern New Jersey Council)
Welcome back!
If you’ve formally registered as an Assistant Scoutmaster and
also as a Merit Badge Counselor,
and filled out the necessary applications for these volunteer
positions, and paid whatever fee is involved, the council
service center should be providing you with actual registration
cards, each stating your registered position. Call the council
service center and speak with the registrar, to get your cards
mailed to you.
Dear Andy,
Is wearing a
neckerchief a required article for the uniform? I’ve heard both
ways. Is it a BSA policy or a Troop choice? Also, I’ve noticed
that some troops have adult patrols, like “Old Geezer,” “Rocking
chair,” and so on. Can the adults wear a patrol emblem on
their uniform? I know how you feel about "patch police" but I’d
like the official ruling on this one. I think that this would
help patrol spirit among the Scouts. Your thoughts? (J.R.,
Crossroads of America Council, IN)
Check the Boy
Scout Handbook—pages 12-13—for your neckerchief question. On
the patrol medallion question, while not strictly "legal,"
Rocking Chair and Old Goat
patrol medallions are pretty harmless and encourage esprit de
corps, so I'd probably be the last one through the door as far
as discouraging this is concerned.
Dear Andy,
Your October 12th column was another great one, but Mister
Commissioner I'm surprised at you! After reading every one of
your questions and answers over the years, you missed an
opportunity. Here's an Assistant Council Commissioner with
access to a mother of four adult Eagle Scout sons and you didn't
question him as to why they aren’t wearing the BSA uniform as
unit leaders or much-needed Commissioners! Four lashes with a
wet noodle for not being “mentally awake”! (Dave Mountney, UC &
Tenderfoot Scout Dad, Patriots' Path Council, NJ)
Ouch! I'll take twenty lashes with a wet lanyard! ;-)
Dear
Andy,
I’m an
old Eagle Scout, from back in the early ‘60s. I recently pulled
out my old sash and I can no longer identify all the merit
badges I earned. I’ve checked current websites, such as this
one, and have identified most of them, guessing at a couple that
have changed somewhat and or been discontinued. As an example,
my Cooking MB looks like an old-time cooking pot and my
Marksmanship MB looks like a bull’s-eye target. But I still
have three that I can’t identify. One appears to be old-time
fire hose nozzles or trumpets. Another is a red heart. The
third is a fireplace hearth with an easy chair. Do you have a
link to a site that shows all the old merit badges and not just
the current ones? Any help you can offer would be greatly
appreciated. (I am not currently active in Scouting at this
time.) (Robert Buchholz, San Gabriel,
CA)
If you're not
involved in Scouting in the San Gabriel Valley Council (service
center on Sierra Madre Boulevard in Pasadena), I hope you
consider getting involved! Good guys are hard to find!
The pot is indeed Cooking and the bull’s eye is indeed
Marksmanship; the others are—in this order—Firemanship, Personal
Fitness, and Citizenship in the Home. (I earned these, and
earned my Eagle in '57, so you’re not as old as you might
think!)
Happy Scouting!
Andy
Have
a question? Idea? Suggestion? Thought? Something that works? Just
write to me at
AskAndyBSA@yahoo.com.
(Please include your COUNCIL or your TOWN & STATE)
(November 7, 2007 – Copyright © Andy McCommish 2007)