Dear Andy,
Your November 12th
column had a question about a Scout with various medical
issues—The Scoutmaster’s name was Rick Jurgens, in the Patriots
Path Council, NJ (adjacent to my own council). If it’s possible,
could you forward him my contact information. I’m a Registered
Nurse, Eagle Scout, and CC of a Pack and Troop, and I’d like to
offer my assistance in working with him and his Troop. Thanks.
(Name Withheld by Request)
How’s that for “Scout spirit”! (I
immediately passed this message over to Rick.)
Dear Andy,
Our pack is
really, really new and we’ve lost more than half of our original
cubs. Our remaining boys are really good about showing up and
doing the crafts that we plan, but we need more boys. Is there
a site where I can get some examples of flyers that we can use
to pass around the schools in an effort to get more boys? (Don
Stewart, Wolf DL, Southwest Florida Council)
The absolute
very best source for recruiting ideas and materials is your
District Executive! DEs are actually trained in recruiting
techniques, so reach out! DEs don't bite! <just kidding>
Dear Andy,
In many past
columns you’ve said that a Scoutmaster can’t and shouldn’t sign
off on merit badges. I’ve looked for this in writing in the
Advancement Committee Policies and Procedures book, but I
can’t locate this policy. I need to find it and show my troop.
Can you tell me where to find it?
I’ve questioned
this several times, and I’ve always been told by my other
leaders that we can sign off on blue cards in situations like
after summer camp when a Scout comes home with a partial we can
finish this off at a troop meeting. I’ve told them that we as
leaders are not allowed to do this—that the Scouts need to find
a counselor and go to him or her and get the requirements
completed; however, I’ve been told many times that since it’s
summer camp we can sign this off. I’m not trying to cause a rift
in the troop, but I want to do the right thing!
On a related
topic, the BSA has Blue Cards for a reason: To use for merit
badges. Yet, our council camp has been using and will be using a
different merit badge application. Can they do this? It makes it
hard on the Scouts and adults to keep records. We just end up
giving the guys a "dummy" blue card and referencing back to the
"white sheet" (AKA “summer camp merit badge application”). Is
there any sort of policy on this?
Lastly, is there
any supplemental training on subject of Scout advancement for us
leaders? (If not, there should be!) I know that on the national
website under Boy Scout section-Adult Leader, under training,
you can click on “Supplemental Training” and there’s a
self-study module for advancement. But is it required?
(Ben Ward, SM, Heart of Virginia Council)
BSA Advancement
Rules and Regulations, Article X, Section 1, Clause 13: "The
responsibility for merit badges shall rest with the merit badge
counselor...The merit badge counselor shall prepare and qualify
youth members." (Source: Advancement Committee Policies and
Procedures, BSA No. 33088C.) Note that it doesn't say
"...or Scoutmaster," or "...or troop committee member," or
"...or Assistant Scoutmaster," or anything else along those
lines, and it also doesn't say, "...in the winter months," or
"in the autumn months," or any other such malarkey. It says
Merit Badge Counselor. Period. End of story.
More: Go to page
187 of the Boy Scout Handbook. The process for earning
merit badges is right there. Note that it doesn't say, "...or
have your Scoutmaster (or CC or ASM, etc.) be your counselor."
"Blue Cards" are
the usual form of the Merit Badge Application, but despite their
almost universal use across the BSA's more than 300 councils,
they're not "mandatory" or "official;" they're simply the going
practice for more than a half-century. If a council or council
camp eschews their use, they're running against an overwhelming
tide, but they're entitled to do this if they so choose.
For
"supplemental training," start by reading the Boy Scout
Handbook, then the Scoutmaster Handbook, and then
Boy Scout Requirements (front sections)—99.99% of what you
need to know is right there!
Dear Andy,
Our council has
had many successful Merit Badge Pow-Wows, but we tend to
have the same merit badges offered every year and I’m looking
for some new ones to suggest trying this year.
Another issue is this: What happens
when a Scout starts one at the Pow-Wow and doesn’t finish it and
doesn’t follow through with the counselor. Since most merit
badges have a project section, it’s tough to come up with three-
or six-hour merit badge sessions. We could have forms sent out
ahead of time, where the Scoutmaster would verify that the Scout
had completed the project (e.g., participated in a popcorn sale,
which might allow the Salesmanship MB Counselor to complete the
remaining requirements during the three-hour class). Similar
merit badges might be American Cultures, Crime Prevention,
Computers, Communication, Fingerprinting, and Soil and Water
Conservation. Do you know of other possible “one day” merit
badges? We tend to have a three-hour morning session, a lunch
break, and then another three-hour session. Each Scout can
either pick one all-day class or two half-day classes. (Rusty
Rodke Santa Fe, NM)
Having been
involved in similar events, I do know there are any number of
single-session merit badges available, including Metalworking,
Wood Carving, Fingerprinting, Truck Transportation, and
Computers, and I know there are others (I've written about them
in earlier columns). A reading through the various requirements
will, I'm sure, reveal others.
Although I'm not
personally in love with Merit Badge Pow-Wows, Fairs, etc.
(largely because one of the goals of the Merit Badge Program is
to imbue and encourage individual initiative in our Scouts and
events like this have a tendency to diminish that goal), I do
understand that Scouts like them and they're relatively harmless
in a broad sense. I would, however, recommend against
"partials" unless the MB Counselors giving their time on a
particular day are equally willing to work further, and
individually as necessary, with those Scouts who don't complete
all requirements on the spot. I'd also recommend against
pre-Blue Card pursuit of prerequisites for certain Merit Badges,
because these run the risk of being done willy-nilly rather than
under the direct guidance of a MBC, as they're intended to be.
In a different but related arena, let's also please remember
that a "partial" is good right up until the Scout's 18th
birthday—There's no such thing as "good for one year" or some
such arbitrary stipulation that conflicts with BSA advancement
policy. Finally, let's also be sure everyone understand that no
merit badge requirement can be "adjusted" to "accommodate" the
event—This would constitute a serious violation of BSA
advancement policy. These aspects considered, best wishes for
successful events.
Howdy Andy!
I’ve just discovered your columns
and have spent WAY too much time today trying to catch up—G
great information! Thank you for doing this for us.
I’m Cubmaster of a relatively new
pack. We were organized a year ago and virtually none of the
adult volunteers had any prior experience with Scouting
leadership. Some of us were Cub and/or Boy Scouts, but that was
it. When I asked our District Executive, who had organized and
run that first meeting, what I could do to help, he said,
“You’re the Cubmaster. Have fun!” Luckily, there were a few
other parents who stepped up, and they’ve been great Den
Leaders.
When we first began, we had about 30
boys. We were very Tiger- and Wolf-heavy, with just a couple of
Bears and one Webelos. At the time, we could only find one
volunteer for each den (and, in fact, had to combine the Bears
and Webelos). We ended up with a Tiger den of about 12 boys and
the Wolves numbered about ten. It wasn’t too long before I
discovered that the BSA states the ideal size for a den is about
6 to 8 boys (after a year’s experience with large dens, I can
definitely corroborate this). I attempted to split the dens
into two smaller dens each but wasn’t successful. It didn’t
work mostly due to lack of additional volunteers, but I did have
a couple of parents who may have done it if I’d really pushed.
The real problem, though, was the parents. I got a lot of grief
about how their son had to be in the same den with his friends
and if he couldn’t be, they’d just quit. I didn’t want that to
happen, so I stopped pursuing it.
Fast forward to today: We now have
50 boys. We have two well- sized new Tiger dens, but the
previous Tigers are now Wolves and that den has 15 Cubs! The
three additional boys in the den joined because they have
friends who were already in the den. I’m now confident that I
can find additional leaders for the den (and the now-Bear den,
which has 12 boys) but I’m still getting the same noise from the
parents whenever splitting the dens is discussed. Even the den
leaders don’t seem to be on board--They say they’re fine with it
the way it is. My own son is in the Wolf den, and when I go to
the den meetings it can be chaos even with the Den Leader, an
ADL, and me trying to ride herd.
My new ACM (thank God for miracles!)
has suggested that we just split the dens and if people don’t
like it, tough. I guess that’s not quite my style, but I’m
close to trying it. What do you think we should do in this
situation? (Dirk Thayer, CM, San Diego–Imperial
Council, CA)
Thanks for
finding me, and enjoy the reading -- But don't try to absorb
everything at once! With over 100 columns, there's just too
much to absorb rapidly. Take your time!
Congratulations
on making a new pack work! You and your fellow volunteers are
truly making a permanent difference in the lives of these boys
and their families!
The BSA
recommendation for dens of between six to eight boys is
well-founded. It largely has to do with practicality and to
assure that every boy in the den gets hands-on guidance from his
Den Leader. When dens are "super-sized," ultimately Den Leaders
breathe sighs of relief when not every boy shows up, and so
ultimately dens of larger size tend to dwindle in size over
time, meaning that boys become lost to the Scouting program and
its learning opportunities... Usually permanently. Luckily, it
is not your own ultimate responsibility to provide leadership
for the boys... This is the responsibility of the parents.
Parents can be problematic at times. If their son is in a den,
and there's adult leadership already (even if the den numbers
15!), they think that that's OK (mostly because they don't
understand the depth of the Scouting program and, sometimes,
simply because they don't wish to commit their own personal
time).
Yes, dens of 12
and 15 need to be divided into dens of six or seven or eight
each, and not more than this. This is the responsibility of
every parent. There needs to be a "den parent meeting" in which
the parents are told that the den will be divided into two
groups, each to become its own den (give them brand-new den
numbers, rather than preserving the "old" number and creating
just one new one--This way, no one becomes an "outcast"). Let
the boys themselves decide (Yes, they're fully capable of this)
by writing down their best den friend's name and their
second-best den friend's name on a piece of paper (privately, of
course), and then the parents with the assistance of the current
Den Leader review the papers and decide what the best
combinations will be to form two separate dens.
They need to
understand, of course, that not every boy and family may be 100%
happy with this division, but that it must be carried out,
regardless. Then, the parents of each new den are told that,
between them, they need to come up with two volunteers--one to
be Den Leader and the other to be Assistant Den Leader--who will
commit to registering, getting trained, getting a uniform, and
leading weekly den meetings. (CAUTION: "Co"-leaders doesn't
work! Never has; never will!) If the parents refuse to reach
agreement on this point, then they need to be told in absolutely
crystal-clear terms that if they aren't willing to provide the
Cub Scouting program for their own sons, there's no "Plan
B"—Their sons will simply not be able to enjoy the Cub Scouting
program ("BSA" does NOT stand for "Baby-Sitters of America" and
no one is obliged in any way to come to the rescue of parents
who are unwilling to stand up for their sons). Moreover, "The
Pack" is not obliged in any way to provide leadership; nor is
anyone else besides these parents themselves, so don't get
pressured by this argument.
As for the Den
Leaders who are saying, "It's fine the way it is," they need to
be brought up to speed on the cold fact that this rarely if ever
works out! Case in point: I remember a second-grade class of
24 boys... One parent said she'd take her son and seven other
boys; another parent (bowing to the pressure of a group of
less-than-willing-to-commit parents) offered to take the
remaining 16 boys, if she could have a Co-Den Leader (which she
got). Four years later, all of the eight boys in the first den
earned their Arrow of Light and shortly afterward all eight
graduated into Boy Scouting (six went on to earn the rank of
Eagle Scout). Meanwhile, the other den had dwindled to about
seven (the other nine had simply dropped along the wayside over
time), two of whom earned AoL but only one of whom went on to
Boy Scouting. (Yes, of course I chose a distinctly polarized
example—How better to make the point!)
Dear Andy,
My son’s patrol
elected him Patrol Leader in early summer; shortly after the
elections our family took an extended vacation, and of course
our son was along. Meanwhile, his Scoutmaster called a
“mandatory” leadership workshop. Our son, of course, was
already with us, and didn’t know about this workshop till we all
returned. That’s when he learned that, in his absence, the
Scoutmaster had had the patrol elect another Scout in his place,
and thereupon told my son that he’d be the Assistant Patrol
Leader but that he’d get “leadership credit” for the APL
position. But shortly thereafter, the Scoutmaster told both
boys—my son and the “new” PL—that neither one would get credit
because he was instituting a new “rule” to the effect that
unless a patrol met some sort of “national patrol award” status
nobody in the patrol would receive credit toward leadership
tenure for rank advancement. When questioned, he affirmed that,
as Scoutmaster, he could make the decision to award or withhold
leadership credit as he chose.
Can he do this?
Is a Scoutmaster actually authorized to award leadership to an
APL? Or take it away from a PL if he chooses? Or make a patrol
re-vote if a PL misses a meeting he didn’t even know about?
(Name & Council Withheld)
I'm very sorry
that this sort of stuff has happened to your son. There are
many errors here, beginning with the high-handedness of the
Scoutmaster when your son was absent from the leadership meeting
due to circumstances totally beyond his control (i.e., he was
with his family—as he should be—on a family vacation), the
rather arbitrary act of replacing him by making the patrol hold
another election, his lack of understanding that the APL
position is absolutely not a qualifying leadership position for
rank advancement (or the lack of understanding that no one can
override a BSA-stipulated requirement), and on and on...
My best
recommendation to you, given the plethora of errors being made
in your son's present troop, is that you and your son go and
check out nearby troops, look for a correctly run troop, and go
join it. If your son has friends in his present troop that he's
reluctant to move on from, a move may be difficult. But, who
knows?... It might turn out that his friends may want to join
him, in a troop that delivers the Scouting program the way it's
intended to be delivered! Besides, this sure beats trying to
shovel water upstream, or—worse—having your son drop out in
frustration!
Why am I not
saying, “stand up and fight”? Simple: The only way to correct a
corrupted organization is from the top. Attempting this “from
within” is invariably a useless effort in futility.
Hello Andy,
I’ve been with our
pack for one year and am a committee member. My husband is the
Committee Chair. I’ve been told that Webelos Scouts who have
reached aged 11 cannot work toward their Arrow of Light. All I
can find regarding age is this (Requirement 1): “Be active in
your Webelos den for at least six months since completing the
fourth grade (or for at least six months since becoming 10 years
old), and earn the
Webelos badge.”
Can you tell me if a boy can be in fifth grade and age 11 and
still work on his Arrow of Light? A reference citation would be
appreciated. (LF, San Diego-Imperial
Council, CA)
This is a
brand-new question and I really appreciate your asking it! One
of the three ways to be eligible to be a Boy Scout is to be 11
years old. The other two ways, each independent of the others,
is to (a) complete 5th grade and (b) earn the Arrow of Light.
OK, with that out of the way, there is nothing that prohibits a
Webelos Scout who has had his 11th birthday from completing the
requirements for Arrow of Light. You're not going to find a
"rule" or "policy" on this, however, because it's an inside-out
situation. What you need to do if you choose to confront the
person who told you that 11 year old Webelos Scouts can't
complete the requirements for AoL is to insist that he or she
show you the written policy that specifically prohibits this.
But don't wait... While they're searching, make sure the boy in
question is working on his requirements and not sitting idle
waiting for a reply.
The alternative,
of course, is for him to simply go and join a Boy Scout troop.
Although it would be nice to have, I can assure you that his
Scouting "career" will not be irrevocably damaged by not having
completed the AoL He'll have bigger fish to fry as a Boy Scout!
I read your ask
Andy colum. (sic) Interesting how your misuse of the term
odious perpetuates your own pious point of view. (DL)
Suggestion: If
you don't care for my point of view, stop reading my columns.
Dear Andy,
Where can I find
information on how a Scoutmaster is elected? (Steve Boeckmann)
Scoutmasters
aren't elected; they're appointed by the head of the troop's
chartered organization (or designate: The troop's Chartered
Organization Representative) and Committee Chair working in
concert with one another.
Dear Andy,
What do you do
when a Scout’s been elected PL or SPL and he’s doing a poor
job? We are very on top of what’s going on and try and give
ideas and guidance, often to be ignored. While the advancement
requirements don’t set a standard of performance, it’s important
that the PL, SPL, etc., jobs be done well, or at least attempted
in effort. I think this is one aspect of this requirement that
falls short. I despise the idea of getting credit for a poor
job! (Bill Fleming, SM, Occoneechee Council, NC)
As Scoutmaster,
your primary, top, foremost, and ultimate job in your Troop is
to TRAIN YOUR YOUTH LEADERS.
If a PL, APL,
SPL, ASPL, QM, or whatever isn't "getting it," it's your job to
fix it, get it right, help the Scout see the light, train him,
coach him, counsel him, mentor him, model for him, and aim him
toward True North. You have the distinct advantage of being
neither a parent nor teacher nor pastor, priest or rabbi, but,
instead, the BIG BROTHER to your Scouts. If you were, in fact,
the big brother of a boy who needed some course correction, what
would you do to help him? Answer that and you're on the right
track to solving your Troop's problems.
No one gets
credit for a poorly performed job, and so it's your singular
responsibility to make sure that your Scouts' performances in
their elected (e.g., PL, SPL) and appointed (e.g., ASPL, QM,
Scribe) positions are successful. Do YOUR job to the very best
of your abilities and I personally guarantee that your Scouts
will be successful in THEIRS!
Dear Andy,
Can activities
within the Bear book that are used to accomplish achievements be
substituted with activities developed by the den leadership?
(Brian Arnold, McDonough, GA)
Good question, and
here's the answer: No.
Now I'll bet you'd
like a little more than that, so I'll tell you that it's in
writing, by the BSA, and it's a very simple statement that no
requirement can be changed in any way by anyone. This means no
"substitutions," too. And that's the story.
Dear Andy,
Can a Commissioner
in one council be an Assistant Scoutmaster in another council at
the same time? (Name & Council Withheld)
The answer, I
think, is along the lines of maybe yes, maybe no, but definitely
not a cool idea. It’s BSA policy that one can't be both a unit
leader and Commissioner concurrently, but since "unit leader"
usually means Scoutmaster or Cubmaster, being an ASM probably
will let one get away with it, although technically this
shouldn’t happen. (It has nothing to do with how many councils
you're registered in, by the way).
Dear Andy,
About troops
delaying the earning of Eagle till Scouts are older and more
mature… If a Scout earns Eagle by age 13, what’s left? I have
seen this in my own troop, where I’m an ASM, a few of the Scouts
have earned Eagle by age 14 or 15 and we rarely if at all see
them anymore. We’ve tried to convince them that their experience
and leadership ability is important to the newer Scouts, and
that seeing an Eagle still involved will keep more Eagles
involved down the road. (Name & Council Withheld)
A bit of ancient
history: I made Eagle at 15; my brother at 14; both of us
stayed active in our Troop and in Scouting right up to 18, and
then became ASMs (I went on to become Scoutmaster of the same
Troop I'd earned my Tenderfoot badge in!). More recently, I've
sat on Eagle boards for 17 years olds who drop out right after
their Court of Honor, and 13 year olds who stay in and active
for the next 4 or more years, and everything in between. In
other words, something other than merely earning Eagle is
operating here, and I'll tell you from experience exactly what
it is: It's the myth that "Eagle is the 'end of the trail'."
Too many of us
who should know better are out there telling Scouts (and their
parents) that Eagle is "The Ultimate," that "Making Eagle is a
Life Goal," that "This is the PINNACLE of Scouting." Horsepucky.
Eagle is a rank, pure and simple. Yes, it's the highest (we're
not counting "Palms" here because Palms aren't ranks), but
advancement is just one of eight methods of Scouting.
Now I'll go
further... To artificially and arbitrarily hold a Scout back
from his own advancement goals is a form of hostage-taking. In
doing this, in purposefully delaying a Scout by throwing up
roadblocks, so that he "stays in the troop longer" is a complete
and total miscarriage of the Scouting program itself, to say
nothing of the advancement plan.
Want Scouts to
stay active in your troop? Simple: Give 'em a program that
enriches their lives, turns 'em on, and is fun. When it works,
it works magic. I've seen troops that "get it." There's one,
in particular, that I have in mind: It's older Scouts drive
to their troop meetings! Got that? Drove! THAT is what you
call a troop program that's a MAGNET. That's what Scouting's
supposed to be.
To anyone
harboring the misguided notion of holding a Scout hostage by
stalling his advancement in order to keep him in the troop, I
have but one response: SHAME ON YOU!
Dear Andy,
A while back, a
Venturer in one of your columns stated: “I know that the tan
uniform can be worn with green shoulder loops, and that there’s
no specific uniform for Venturing.” I'm sorry, but that new
Venturer is simply wrong, he DOES NOT wear green loops on a tan
shirt. Check out any recent BSA Insignia Guide: “Shoulder
loops, green ribbon, Venturer and Venturing adult… Not to be
worn on Boy Scout khaki uniform.” (Dave Loomis)
Of course you're
right on the money: Green shoulder loops aren't worn on a Scout
shirt.
Dear Andy,
One of the Scouts
in the troop I serve as Scoutmaster recently completed his Eagle
application. His “educator” reference brought her letter to
me (I’m the Scoutmaster) and stated that she couldn’t recommend
the Scout. It seems that he had issues with her in class the
previous year—that, according to her, he was disrespectful and
“showed little interest in honesty and doing the right thing”
and he needs to mature more. But then she went on to tell
me that he’s mowed her lawn all summer for no fee and has been
helpful to her in other ways as well (which I’d interpret as
showing Scout sprit and a willingness to make amends for
whatever mistakes he may have made. I’m thinking that this
teacher should never have stated the content of her letter to me
in the first place, and now I'm concerned about the impact it
could have on this Scout’s board of review. I do know he’s been
a troubled youth in the past, but he’s has made a nice recovery
and is starting to mature. He’d trusted her to provide a
positive referral and now she blind-sides him instead of telling
him candidly and openly that she’s unwilling to do this. So what
effect should one negative letter have on a Eagle board of
review? Because of her telling me of her letter’s content,
should it be presented to the board at all? Or should this Scout
seek a different educator for a reference? This would have been
much easier if, as an educator, she was able to follow
directions, and had sent the letter to the Eagle board chairman,
or as a person of forthrightness, she had spoken personally to
this Scout. Instead, we have a potential mess on our hands.
Any thoughts? (Mike Healey, Quivira Council, KS)
The first thing
I have to say is that I'm a little confused about something...
The names of the people listed on the Eagle rank application are
people who, according to the usual procedure, have been
contacted by the Scout himself and asked if they would be
willing to provide a letter of reference for him, and when they
reply in the affirmative their names are thereupon entered on
the application. Do we actually have a person, here, who told
the Scout that she's write a letter of recommendation for him
and then two-facedly wrote a letter unsupportive of his
candidacy for Eagle? Or did something else happen, was some
alternate procedure carried out? If the stated process wasn't
followed, then I heartily recommend that you and your
advancement chair get on track with proper process, so that this
sort of thing doesn't happen again.
That said, if,
in point of cold fact, this teacher pulled a turn-around on the
candidate, then that should definitely be pointed out to the
members of the Board of Review, and you're precisely the guy to
do it!
Yes, that letter should absolutely not be withheld. It should
accompany all other letters, the members of the BoR should read
them all, and then of course they're all destroyed immediately
upon conclusion of the BoR.
Although, as Scoutmaster, you cannot be a member of any BoR for
any rank, you always have the right to address the BoR members
regarding any Scout about to advance. When the BoR is convened,
but before the Scout is introduced, would be a perfect time for
you to describe to the members exactly what you've stated here,
with neither embellishment nor holding anything back. The BoR's
members should be fully capable of separating wheat from chaff
and horses from horsepucky.
Hello Andy,
Can you give me
some good ideas of how to award a Cub Scout who has earned his
Wolf badge? (Melissa, DL,
Coolidge, AZ)
There's a very
fine book you can buy at your local Scout Shop that has a whole
bunch of ceremonies in it, made-to-order for
Cub Scout leaders like you! You
can also find a bunch right here:
http://usscouts.org/usscouts/ceremony.asp
Hi Andy,
We have a nice
district patch that I'd like to put on our uniforms, but I don't
see any reference to such a patch on any of the uniform
inspection sheets. Does it go on the right sleeve? (Betsy
Flynn, Conquistador Council, NM)
It doesn’t go on
the right sleeve, or anywhere else! Per BSA policy, there's not
supposed to be any district patches for uniform wear.
Dear Andy,
Our troop
committee is debating whether or not to implement a requirement
that each Scout attend a specific percentage of meetings and
campouts in order to fulfill his requirement to be “active.”
The debate also spills over to attendance criteria for
fulfilling leadership requirements. I’ve read some of your past
articles related to your opinion on mandatory attendance of some
percentage and agree with your assessments. However, where I
still have questions is with determining whether a Scout has met
the leadership requirements in order to advance to the next
rank. If, let’s say, a Scout has been put in the position of
Scribe, and is rarely at any of the meetings for the six months
he’s in that position (whether it be due to sports teams, a job,
or any other valid reason) how can he have satisfied the
leadership requirement? Wouldn't a requirement that the Scout
attend a set percentage of troop meetings solve that issue?
Your further thoughts on this would help greatly. (Matt, Central
NJ Council)
No Scouting unit
is permitted to apply or enforce a percentage or other metric to
the “active” requirement. This is a BSA policy; it is not my
opinion. It is not subject to discussion or debate. End of
story.
Dear Andy,
In the Arrow
of Light list of things to do, one of them is to visit a Boy
Scout troop with your den. Does it have to be done with the
den, or could he do it on his own, and visit troop of his own
choosing? (Rhonda Hitt, MC, Greater Alabama Council)
Good question!
And the answer’s Yup, AoL req. 4 means doing exactly what’s
stated: “With your den, visit at least one Troop meeting and one
Boy Scout-oriented outdoor event.” No way around that.
However, there's a third visit – for requirement 6 – that
involves visiting a troop meeting (separate from the meeting
visited with the den) with one's parents and having a
conversation with the troop's Scoutmaster. This requirement
certainly allows for the boy to choose the troop he'd like to
visit—Heck, that's the purpose of this requirement!
Dear Andy,
As a boy, I spent
three years (all with perfect attendance) in Cub Scouts and
earned the Bobcat, Wolf, Bear, and Lion badges, all with Arrow
Points. In fact, I was the only one in my den to go on to Boy
Scouts. I spent seven years in my Boy Scout troop (again, with
perfect attendance), earned Eagle with a Palm, was elected to
the Order of the Arrow, and later became an adult volunteer
leader. After 30 years, my mom just sent me the old “mother’s
pins” that she received when I was a boy. Included was a large,
pin-on arrow-of-light of the style that would be used in the
1960s. I called her and asked where she got it, and she said
that she thinks they gave it to her because I was in the OA. I
knew that that wasn’t the case, and I began looking through my
old Lion book. I found the requirements for Arrow of Light, but
nothing had initials signifying that anything was signed off (I
do remember that the Cubmaster didn’t keep good records—Things
were a bit loose in that area). I also know that no Cub
received advancement cards; just patches or pins. I most
certainly completed many of the requirements, probably all of
them. I even looked at the Tenderfoot section of my Boy Scout
Handbook. It kept open the option that I may have earned
AoL. My best guess is that
since none of the other boys earned the Arrow of Light (they
didn’t go on to Boy Scouts), the Cubmaster probably gave the pin
to my mother so I could wear it on my Boy Scout uniform. I long
ago moved across country and am active in a new council. When I
received the package from my mom and after calling her, I
brought this up to some of my new Scouting buddies—all Eagle
Scouts, Silver Beaver, and so on—and they encouraged me to wear
the square knot signifying the AoL. But I felt funny about
that. It wasn't until one of them went out and bought a knot
for me that I actually sewed it on. They even had sort of a
“belated ceremony” for me, all in good spirit. What’s your take,
Andy? If I’m off-base, I’ll pull that thing off. No knot is
worth my reputation. Thanks for providing this resource. (Name &
Council Withheld)
Congratulations! Yes, I think you can be justifiably proud of
having earned the Arrow of Light award—There's no way your
mother would have had that pin if you hadn't! Wear that knot
with humble pride, my Scouting friend! And keep on enjoying
being a part of the greatest youth movement the world's ever
known!
Happy Scouting!
Andy
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(December 22, 2007 – Copyright © Andy McCommish 2007)