Ask Andy - Issue #17 - October 2003
Dear Andy,
Our Troop Committee and
our Scouts would like to nominate our Scoutmaster for the Scoutmaster
Award of Merit. But we can’t because even though he meets all of the
other requirements to be nominated, he’s not completed any training in
Scoutmaster Fundamentals (or equivalent). As Committee Chair, I’ve
tried for several years to encourage him to attend such training, but I
guess the time involved was just too much, next to his other
obligations. I’ll keep trying, and maybe we’ll be able to nominate him
sometime in the future, but we’re sure open to any ideas or suggestions
you might have! (R.F., Troop Committee Chair.
Somerset, NJ.)
I can certainly understand the situation with your Scoutmaster. But I’m
wondering if maybe this might be used as a way to encourage him to take
training that he needs to do the best job possible. You (along with a
couple of other committee members, together) might want to take a moment
to actually show him the S-A-M nomination form and tell him outright
that the Troop wants to nominate him for this. Then, with true remorse,
you might explain to him that, as much as the Troop would love to
nominate him, you can't because he hasn't made the time to receive any
training! You might even take a further moment to tell him how his lack
of formal training also prevents the Troop from receiving the annual
QUALITY UNIT National Recognition. Perhaps these might encourage him to
do what he really needs to do. Or, you might want to take a different
approach altogether: If he has a Scout-age (or younger) child, or
younger brother or sister, or a niece or nephew, suggest to him that a
group of people would like to take that child/those children away for
the weekend and that the leader of the group has no formal training for
this... and then ask him what his feelings are about this? This leads
straight to the question, Isn't this what he and the Troop are telling
the parents of the Scouts, when they have an untrained Scoutmaster?
Worth a try? Give it some thought, and then go ahead. The you, he, and
the Troop owe it to the Scouts in your charge to provide the best
trained leadership possible!
Hi Andy,
What’s your take on this new online Youth Protection
Training course? (Ben Streit, Scout parent, Salinas, CA)
In a word, Ben: OUTSTANDING! Just renewed myself by using it. It’s
straightforward, fast, interactive, and to be real honest with you, a
lot better than having to listen to some brainless facilitator’s
personal war stories! (Read the next Q&A, below, if you don’t know what
I mean here.) Plus, I like the test at the end – It keeps me in touch
with just what I do know, and what I need to not forget! Pass the word
– It’s painless, thought-provoking, free, fast, and all in the privacy
and comfort of your own computer room!
Dear Andy,
I’ve just come back into Scouting (as an adult volunteer)
after a long hiatus, and took a basic training course to get up to
speed. One of the trainers was a guy who, on his permanent, plastic
name badge, under his name, had “The Evil One” embossed onto it. He
proceeded to tell us how he’s his council’s “watchdog” and how he
disagrees with lots and lots of the policies “from ‘national’.” As the
training proceeded, he revealed himself to be one of the most pompous,
arrogant, negative-thinking, insensitive people I’ve ever met–anywhere!
A classic “legend in his own mind”! How the heck can the BSA survive
with jerks like this, and how the heck does a council’s training team
justify letting a guy like this loose on newly recruited volunteers? (D.H.,
Northeast Region)
You’ve just asked two “million-dollar questions”! And, believe me, I
wish I had a really good answer for you. In the first place, “evil,” as
a concept, has no place in Scouting. Plus, if you’re a trainer, you’re
expected to deliver the “global” message of Scouting – aims, methods,
program, policies, and procedures – without adding your own little
“personal touches” to the message. Finally, pontificating has no place
in training – anywhere! So, you obviously ran into a (how did you put
it?) jerk. Yes, the training team should probably have bounced him
years ago. But some training teams are of the mentality that “well, he
ain’t any good, but he’s all we’ve got.” This is just as dumb, because
it ultimately loses more volunteers than it gains, and some folks will
actually buy into this sort of negativism and (ouch!) perpetuate it. And
here’s what’s even worse -- If you make it your mission to bring this
to the attention of the training folks, you will be made
the pariah; not the jerk! (I’ve never been able to figure out why this
happens; I just know that it does!) So, even though you didn’t ask for
“advice” I’m going to dispense it anyway: Try to forget this guy, and
just do your own Scouting job the very best you can. Some people are
just born jerks; others have to work real hard at it. It’s a credit to
Scouting’s fundamentals that, even with our share of self-important
curmudgeons like this, we keep moving forward!
Dear Andy,
I’m a fairly new
District Executive in a council I’d better not name (you’ll see why in a
minute). I’ve just been appointed Staff Advisor on a pretty important
council committee, and I’m having a problem a volunteer on that
committee – I’ll call her “Betty.” Betty volunteered to write a
promotional flyer, but no matter what I tell her about the job she’s
doing, she insists on doing it her own way. I revised her final draft,
so she could see that there’s a better way to do what’s needed, but
Betty changed it back again. Then, she went behind my back and had the
flyer printed without my final approval. What can I do to get her to
see that she’s got to be more of a team player or this just isn’t going
to work out? (L.D., D.E.)
Hmmm... I’m wondering
who the “team player” is here, and who isn’t. Let’s see... “Betty”
first agreed to serve on the council committee, she volunteered to
develop an important promotional piece, and then she did the job!
Pretty impressive! Sounds like a team player to me! Then there’s
you... You have a volunteer who’s doing the job, but you start getting
in the way, sharing your “infinite wisdom” with her, and then actually
re-doing what she committed to complete, and did, and now you’re
wondering who’s not a team player? Look at it this way:
You can do the job you were hired to do, or you can do what the
volunteers are supposed to be doing...which one are you being paid those
big bucks for? When volunteers step up to the plate, there’s only one
thing a council employee should do: GET OUT OF THE WAY. If you don’t,
pretty soon the only sound you’ll be hearing is yourself, soloing.
Dear Andy,
I’m a new Tiger Cubs Leader and have been searching the net
for simple ideas to teach them a flag ceremony. I’ve found one, but I
don't understand the meaning of the word "two" after the Pledge of
Allegiance. I’ve seen this in several different flag ceremonies. Would
you please explain this to me? Thank You! (Carol Zahn, Pack 164,
Wheatland District, Coronado Council, Quinter, Kansas.)
Here's good news, Carol – It's simply
an abbreviation. "Two" simply means, "OK, y'all can put your hands down
now." Before we say the Pledge of Allegiance, one of the Tiger Cubs
will say, "Salute," and all will do so. Then, on completion of the
Pledge, he says, "Two," and everyone drops their hands to their sides
again. Mystery solved!
Dear Andy,
We are having some serious issues
that need resolved in our pack. We have 25 Cub Scouts in our Pack, and
we have a brand new Cubmaster who is also a Den Leader. But there have
been some behind the scenes discussions about removing her, because of
what some consider poor performance. Four different dads were asked to
become the Cubmaster; they all refused. Now, the committee chair has
decided to forcefully remove our present Cubmaster and reinstate the one
before – even though he had said that he’s “burned out” with Scouting.
We’ve spoken to our District Executive, and his solution was to vote out
the committee chair, instead. So, we did this, but now our council’s
registrar has declared a “freeze” on any more leadership changes in the
Pack. Meanwhile, our current Cubmaster has improved over the year, and
our Pack program now has much more depth to it. My question is this:
We want to keep our current Cubmaster, because she’s doing a pretty good
job and also because the “old” one doesn’t want anything to do with any
district or council activities. How do you remove a committee chair,
when he’s also the chartered organization rep? If we lose our current
Cubmaster, probably three-fourths of the Cubs will move to a different
Pack, and the rest have said they’ll just quit, outright! I’ve looked
on-line for some information that I can take to the council meeting to
prove our points. I can’t find anything. Can you please offer a
solution to this situation? (Name withheld to protect the innocent!)
Well, don't we have a
fine mess on our hands, here! First things first: YOU NEED HELP FROM
YOUR COMMISSIONER! This is the best source of help for your Pack,
because this is what Commissioners are here to do. Call your council
service center and find out who your District Commissioner is, and then
call and ask for a visit by a Commissioner who can help you folks. Now,
let's look at some of the issues...
You've got what seems to be a
combination of "incest" and "if I win, you lose" mentalities going on
here. So, let's get a few things straight. First, being a Den Leader
and Cubmaster is a really not-so-hot idea. These two Scouting
"jobs" get in the way of one another, not only at committee meetings
but, more importantly, at the Pack meetings themselves. So, your Den
Leader-cum-Cubmaster needs to make a choice – one or the other, but not
both. I hope she'll stay on as Den Leader, because Cubmaster should be
a "no-brainer" to fill! This is the very best job in Scouting because,
essentially, the job is that of being Master of Ceremonies at Pack
meetings, and little else! So, revisit the best candidate among the
dads you've spoken with, tell him "you're our first choice," and
encourage him to take the job for this school year only. Assuming
monthly Pack meetings, this means he only has to "do his job" eight or
nine times between now and next June, and then he's off the hook!
Next, the same applies to your
chair-cum-chartered organization rep: pick one job, and relinquish the
other. Or, if need be, the committee can vote to elect a new chair, and
that's that. A simple majority of registered committee members (not
just parents, and not Den Leaders – committee members!) at any
committee meeting will do the job, so long as you have someone who has
already said they'll step up to the plate on the same night that this is
done. With the kind of parent participation you have already, both of
these changes should be fairly easy to accomplish – The "pitch" is this:
"You already show up at all the meetings anyway, so taking on a specific
role isn't really increasing your time commitment! by much!"
Now, let’s tackle "council
involvement." The council doesn't "own" the Pack – the school does.
The school is the chartered organization. So, the council can't really
"refuse" to change registration designations – it's their job to deal
with the paperwork.
Finally, let’s talk about
"attitudes." If we try to "prove" our points, no one wins and there's a
good chance that the boys will lose – and you sure don't want that to
happen! But, through all of this, I'm suspecting that an underlying
cause of this rancor might be that no one's gone to Cub Scout Leader
Training! If you good people all go to the very next training session,
and you all "catch the vision" at the same time, I'll bet you'll come
away saying to yourselves, "We can work this out, now that we better
understand the program and our roles in it." So, get the parents
trained – even if they don't have specific roles in the Pack right now –
and get a Commissioner to help you sort stuff out and keep you all from
butting heads. Good luck! You CAN do it!
Dear
Andy,
Can
leaders that are teaching a merit badge, sign the blue card of their
own child? I can't find anyone who knows for sure if this against
BSA rules. (Mike and Dawn Gay)
Yup, Merit
Badge Counselors aren’t restricted in any way – they can counsel
relatives, including sons, nephews, and so forth. If anyone should
"challenge" you on this point, tell 'em it's right in the BSA
Advancement Committee Policies & Procedures book, on page 13:
"An approved Merit Badge Counselor may counsel any youth member,
including his or her own son, ward, or relative." That said, the
Merit Badge Counselor must certainly be registered as such with the
council, and will want to adhere to the "Buddy System" in all cases.
Dear Andy,
A question has come up about our Troop equipment. We own canoes, canoe
trailers, stoves, tents etc. Our Troop sponsor (a self-insured church),
says we are not covered by their policy. In fact, when the
issue, arose they required a copy of the BSA policy, and as a result, we
wrote to National’s carrier, Liberty Mutual, in Irving, Texas, but got
no response. I researched this as best I could, but got nowhere. I’m
confident there’s a rule, regulation or policy on this issue, but I
can’t find it. Help! Thanks! (Steve McCabe, Committee Chair,
Troop 73, Patriots' Path Council,
Westfield, NJ.)
Well, Steve, you sure threw me a
doozie! But, I have some answers for you, after doing some research and
some reaching out. Here we go...First off, your equipment is NOT
insured by the BSA. And it won't be, for good reason: The BSA doesn't
own it; the church that sponsors you does. So, you might want to talk
to the church folks again, and point out to them that, just as they
"own" the Troop they sponsor, they also own all of the Troop's
equipment, and they might want to be sure the stuff is covered under
whatever policy or plan they're carrying for themselves. That said,
here are some other avenues I've explored...
It's probably pointless to try to get
a "rider" for the stuff on the existing homeowner's policy of, say, one
of the committee members, because the equipment has to be "under the
care, custody, and control" of the policyholder. So, that's probably a
dead end. You might want to try "donating" the equipment to your
council, and then they, in turn, "ask" you to store it for them, which
would put the stuff under the same policy as the council's summer camp
equipment. But this is pretty tricky to work out and it's probably
unlikely that you can "sell" the idea because it could open a huge can
of worms if other units start wanting to do this, too. So, here's what
might be your final option...
Contact an independent insurance agent
(see if someone associated with the Troop right now is, or knows, an
independent agent). Ask about what's called an INLAND MARINE POLICY
(sometimes called a "floater"). This kind of policy insures exactly the
kind of equipment you have. It insures against "disaster" (e.g., the
place where you store the stuff is flooded, or burns up) but not against
normal wear and tear. You'd make an inventory list, including age of
each item, and approximate value. This is what would be listed in the
policy, and if a substantial portion of it is damaged or lost, it can be
replaced (for instance, if someone backs the canoe trailer off a cliff
with all the canoes still on it), but not necessarily if a single item
is damaged. For instance, if couple of Scouts run a canoe up on a bunch
of rocks and they put a hole in it, that's a "repair" situation; not
replacement. You're probably looking at a minimum annual premium
somewhere in the $350 to $500 range, and a deductible of $500 (or
possibly more). So, what you have to weigh is the total actual value of
the equipment versus the premium versus the direct cost of replacement.
You've asked a great question, that I'm betting lots of folks will be
interested in, so thanks for asking, and keep on asking!
Dear Andy,
What
would you recommend to a unit commissioner of a unit like the one that's
run by the "worlds oldest patrol leader". The Scoutmaster refuses to get
training because he has seen and done it all and continues to run the
troop that in no way looks like the BSA says it should. Unfortunately we
have all seen too many of cases like these. What does the Unit
Commissioner do when the troop committee, chartered organization rep,
and institutional head are all afraid to do anything??? (Ray O’Neill,
Unit Commissioner, East Carolina Council, New Bern, NC.)
Well, Ray, I'm guessing you
mean something other than shooting him? Even though that's my first
choice, I guess we commissioners can't go running around like
vigilantes, and that's probably a good thing! The kind of Scoutmaster
you’ve described is also usually a "one-man band," and that's one of the
key reasons the committee and parents are afraid – they think whoever
takes the job next will have to do the whole job, and they just
don't know (yet!) that – broken into parts – the jobs of running a Troop
aren’t all that burdensome. Here's the "recipe"...
Your first job is to get the committee
and parents to a point where they can see what a Scout Troop should
really be like, when it's run the way the program was designed to run.
Disregard the Scoutmaster – you're not going to "convert" him – and
concentrate on the parents. Set up a separate meeting with them, and
personally show them the BS "Fast-Start" tape (have your district's Boy
Scout Leader Trainer with you, if possible). To recruit parents for the
meeting, tell them, "This is an important meeting that has to do with
your son's future in Scouting, and you really need to be there – it's a
one hour meeting and that's all." Show them the portions of the tape
that concentrate on (a) what the parents and committee do and (b) what
the Scoutmaster does, but really emphasize what the Scouts themselves
are supposed to be doing. Do this in no more than one-third of the
total meeting time – about 20 minutes. Then, after the tape, pose this
question: "If your son were signed up to play on a Little League team,
and you went to a practice and saw that they were playing Water Polo,
how would you feel?...Well, that's exactly what's happening here: The
Troop 'looks' like Boy Scouts, because the boys wear uniforms, and
there's a Scoutmaster, but that's where the similarity ends!" Then,
read from some passages that you've pre-marked in the Boy Scout
Handbook... You know, the sections about how the Scouts elect Patrol
Leaders, and plan their own activities, and teach themselves new skills,
and so on. Then tell the parents this: "The Troop isn't delivering what
your sons have been promised and it's up to YOU ALL to make it right,
and if you don't you'll have no one to criticize but yourselves."
Then, take out a set of pre-written
cards, each one with a title and brief set of responsibilities on it,
like this (the job descriptions here are ones I'm making up on the spot
– make up your own, to fit the situation)...
-
Scoutmaster: Helps the
Patrol Leaders plan the Troop's program, and is available at Troop
meetings to guide the boy leaders.
-
Committee Chair:
Recruits, organizes and manages the Troop's parents, to support the
program of activities that the Scouts in the Troop have planned. -
Transportation Parent(s): Drive to and from up to two outings per year,
and organize other parents to do the same.
-
Treasurer: Manages the
dues, keeps records of payments, re-charters the Troop annually.
-
Snack parent(s):
Provides snacks and drinks for after each Troop Court of Honor
(reimbursed by Treasurer).
-
And so on... jobs big,
jobs small.
Put the cards on the table, and let
the parents choose their jobs, with this admonition: "All cards must be
picked up...Those that aren't will be given to parents without
cards...The smart thing to do is to choose the job you think you'd like
and feel you can handle, rather than being 'assigned' a job." When all
cards – including Scoutmaster! – are taken, assure the parents that
they've done the right thing. Then, have them schedule a meeting with
themselves and the current Scoutmaster (this meeting should be scheduled
no more than a week away, so that the new momentum doesn't evaporate).
Give the parents an "assignment"
before they depart: "READ YOUR SON'S SCOUT HANDBOOK -- ESPECIALLY THE
PARTS IN THE FRONT ABOUT WHAT HE CAN EXPECT IN AND FROM HIS TROOP!"
At the meeting with the Scoutmaster,
he's given this offer (preferably by the parent who has chosen the
"Committee Chair" card): "We need for this Troop to deliver the Scouting
program as it's written. This includes all meetings run by the Senior
Patrol Leader, who is elected; permanent Patrols and elected Patrol
Leaders; parents attending Troop outings; rank advancement instructions,
by the Scouts, inside each Troop meeting; and the Scoutmaster acting as
advisor to the Scouts only, from the background and not out in front of
the Troop at every meeting...(add others to fit your situation). We're
hoping you're willing to do this."
If he runs true to form, the
Scoutmaster will launch into a speech about how long he's been running
the Troop "his" way, how "successful" it's been, how "grateful" these
parents should be, and so on. At some point – give him a little time to
"vent"! – he'll need to be reined in and told, very directly: "Yes, we
appreciate all of that, but it's time for a change, and we've described
the changes we'd like to see. Are you willing to make these changes?"
When he says (directly or indirectly), "No," then it's time to ask him
for his resignation. Period. When he says, "YOU can't 'fire' me," the
parents' response MUST be: "Yes, we can...Your tenure has come to an
end, and we are appointing a new Scoutmaster. We’re grateful for your
dedication, but now is the time for a change. We'd like this to be
graceful." (This is where you've already laid the groundwork with the
sponsoring organization, and have their approval in advance for the
committee to make this change – and their firm promise to endorse it
without wavering or repudiating the committee's decision!)
The final step is this: At the very
beginning of the very next Troop meeting, the Committee Chair announces
the change to the Troop and all parents attending, presents the "old"
Scoutmaster with a plaque thanking him for his dedication, and
introduces the newly appointed Scoutmaster. The very beginning usually
works best, but this can be done in the middle or at the end – the
important thing is: DO IT! (Wouldn't be a bad idea to have your District
Commissioner with you that night, so you both can support the parents –
and also for "riot control" if necessary.)
Ray, this is unquestionably one of the
more challenging tasks in all of commissioner work, and it will tap all
your skills of diplomacy, tack, forthrightness and direction-setting.
But it's critical to the life of the movement – It's ultimately the only
way we can deliver a quality Scouting program to the boys in our charge!
A final thought: Just as Scouting
provides an environment for self-empowerment to our sons, your job as
commissioner is to provide a similar environment to these parents of the
units in your care.
Hey Andy,
The theme of a "Scoutmaster who’s
overstaying his welcome" seems to come up a lot, whether in your column
or in my district. I know that, in our district-level positions,
people take on leadership roles (District Commissioner, District
Chairman, Training Chair, etc.) for 3 years, but they’re elected or
re-elected each year. This seems to allow for the opportunity to
replace someone who is not measuring up or just needs to go instead of
riding it out for 3 years until their term is up. Is there any
national policy on when unit committees are supposed to be reviewing or
re-electing positions like Scoutmaster, Cubmaster, Committee Chair, and
so on, or is the timing of when they do this up to each committee?
So many seem to think the Scoutmaster position is like being appointed
to the Supreme Court: ”Till death do us part.” Thanks. (Michael
O'Donnell, Assistant District Commissioner, Gravois Trail District,
Greater Saint Louis Area Council, Missouri.)
Unfortunately, Mike, this same
practice hasn't been adopted at the unit level, and we do have both
Scoutmasters and a few Cubmasters (and unit committees!) who think this
is a "job-for-life." Part of the problem, of course, is that it's
often not easy to recruit someone who will do the job, and – once found
– the parents and committee are often afraid to institute a change,
because the job is perceived as very time-consuming and burdensome.
The trick for us commissioners is to let the parents and committees know
(directly or indirectly) that, as Mark Twain might have put it,
Scoutmasters and diapers need to be changed regularly, and for the same
reason.
Happy Scouting!
Andy
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(October 2003)
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