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Dear Andy,
I’m looking for
information on the BSA Lone Scout program. Does the Scout have to live in the
same council that’s sponsoring him, or can he reside in another state? (Bill
Pschigoda, Southwest Michigan Council)
Thanks for asking about Lone Scouting. Go here for a very nice article about
Lone Scouting:
http://www.Scoutingmagazine.org/issues/0110/a-lone.html
The thing to remember is that a "Lone" Scout isn't "alone." All Lone Scouts
have adult counselors who act as guides/exemplars, and this relationship is
absolutely key. Thus, the Lone Scout program isn’t designed to be a
"long-distance" program, where the Lone Scout and his counselor don't actually
get eyeball-to-eyeball. Most counselors are one or the other parent. So, with
these elements in mind, what was your question?
Can a Lone
Scout continue to be involved with his former troop?
If, by "involved," you mean registered in, what would be the point of being
registered in a troop he no longer participates in?
My question is in
regards to two Scouts originally from our troop whose family has moved to a
different state, and they say they’re unable to find a troop where they now
live. So I’m wondering if I can sponsor them as Lone Scouts.
Their own parents can and should sponsor them, right where they live. If you
read the information on the link I gave you, you’ll see that this is how it's
done. It would be pointless for you, in a different state, to be the counselor
for either of these Scouts, because you can’t readily guide them from afar.
However, before they proceed down this path, have they actually tracked down the
council they're now residing in and asked specifically about nearby troops?
They can do this beginning right on the BSA website:
www.Scouting.org.
Dear Andy,
As a Scoutmaster,
I’m being constantly dogged by a member of our troop committee who attends every
troop meeting and takes on the attitude of an "arm-chair quarterback,"
interrupting me, and the Scouts, too, to interject his opinion on what we’re
doing or how we’re doing it (he was once Scoutmaster of this troop, a bunch of
years ago, I might add).
For a while, I
would ask him to teach some particular Scout skill or some such thing
occasionally at troop meetings, the idea being to try to give him something
constructive to add to our meetings and to tap into his skills and knowledge.
For the most part, this approach has been working, but lately and more and more
often, it seems as if this isn’t enough. Now, he tried to interject some sort of
control over us current adult volunteers, as well as the Scouts (”When I was
Scoutmaster…"). He’s even organized events for the Scouts without telling
anyone else, he interrupts me during troop meetings, and now he’s outright
challenging me as well as the troop committee and the Scouts themselves.
I could use some
clarification on a major disagreement between us that has to do with leadership
responsibilities and roles. Here’s the situation...
In spirit of the
Patrol Method and a Scout-led troop, I recently did not interfere, but rather
encouraged, our Senior Patrol Leader to address the issue of troop meeting
schedule. With the start of a new school year, and with most Scouts also
involved in other activities, such as band, soccer, football, and so on, the
Scouts decided that they want to have troop meetings every two weeks during the
school months and then weekly during summer vacation. I fully supported this
and we made the change, understanding that this new meeting schedule is in
addition to the many other troop events we have, such as trail maintenance,
fund-raisers, community service projects, all of which are already on our
calendar for the year.
This same
gentleman, however, is adamantly against this decision. He’s told the committee
and me as well that I was totally wrong in letting the Scouts make this
decision, and I’m also wrong in supporting it. He’s stated that the decision of
when a troop meets is solely the decision of the troop committee—that committee
decides how often the troop meets and, as a committee member, he says we have to
meet every week, if that’s the committee’s decision.
Now I know this
gentleman is way off base, but your response will give me some guidance in
attempting to help him better understand the role of a troop committee and its
members, the Scoutmaster, and the Patrol Leaders Council. Thank for your time
and support, and I’ll be waiting for your response. (Name & Council Withheld)
Have you ever noticed the BSA-published weekly troop meeting plans, or
the weekly troop program helps leading up to a monthly theme, or how the
handbooks talk about weekly meetings? The BSA didn't "make a rule" or
"lay down an edict" about weekly troop meetings because the framers of the Boy
Scouting program pretty much though that good folks like you would figure out
along the way that weekly is what the program's all about. Less than
weekly guarantees diminished momentum, attendance fall-off, erratic programming,
and, eventually, a "why bother at all" attitude, and then the troop's gone...
Weekly meeting are absolutely, positively critical to success.
OK, now let's consider two other hypothetical scenarios to make another, but
related, point: As Scoutmaster, what would have been your response if the
Patrol Leaders Council had voted to meet every second night—Monday night,
Wednesday night, Friday night, and so on—throughout the year? Or, what would
have been your response if they'd decided to meet once every six weeks or so?
Oh, really? You would have spoken up and said, "Hold yer horses here! That
ain't gonna work!" or something along that line, I hope. Well, same with the
notion of every two weeks, based on the same principle.
So, you need to get the PLC together at the very next troop meeting, or sooner,
and tell 'em straight from the shoulder: We all made a mistake, and we're
going to fix it right now.
This is absolutely not at all counter to the idea of a Scout-led troop; instead,
it advises the PLC that there is a framework inside of which they operate. This
is a very important life-lesson!
Now if there's a problem with the night the troop meets, this is
absolutely changeable! Based on working with several dozen successful troops,
I've observed that earlier in the week (Monday or Tuesday) almost always works
better than later. I've also seen two extremely successful troops--one with
about two dozen Scouts and the other with over 70--that met on Sundays! That's
right: Sunday late afternoon in one case and Sunday evening in the other. Of
course, on weekends that included an overnight campout, they'd skip the Sunday
meeting; but other than this, they met weekly virtually year round! So, the PLC
might want to consider polling the Scouts to find the best night to meet.
As for the now-committee member who preceded you as Scoutmaster... Sometime
these sorts o' guys join the "Old Goat Patrol" and others join the "Rocking
Chair Patrol," but every now and again you get one that wants to join the Old
Fart-Who-Interferes Patrol. And, by allowing him “into” troop meetings, you
abdicated a portion of your role as Scoutmaster and gave just enough to him that
he’s seized more power and is using it.
Unfortunately,
there's now only one solution to this problem, and it needs to be resolved
quickly, before it does permanent damage to the troop's morale and ability to
operate successfully. This is to be done by the COR and the CC (not the
Scoutmaster) in concert. They must take this gentleman aside and describe three
(and only three) options: 1. He will immediately stop interfering with the
troop, interacting with the Scouts, and making remarks "from the sidelines": 2.
He will resign; 3. He will be fired on the spot if he doesn't choose either 1.
or 2. Understand: The COR and CC can make this stick, and there's no recourse
through any other channel (e.g., the district, the council, etc.). Yes, the COR
and CC will need stiff spines. But, this is their job, and they need to do it.
These are my prescriptions for both of your problems. You need to get your
troop back aimed at True North as fast as you can, before further deterioration
sets in.
Dear Andy,
Each year at Webelos resident camp, our Webelos earn the Archery and BB Gun belt
loops. This year they also worked on the Sportsman activity badge; however, for
reasons I don’t understand, they can’t count the Archery or BB Gun belt loops
toward completion of the Sportsman activity badge. Requirement 3 of the
Sportsman activity badge says, "While you are a Webelos Scout, earn Cub Scout
Sports belt loops for two individual sports (badminton, bicycling, bowling,
fishing, golf, gymnastics, marbles, physical fitness, ice skating, roller
skating, snow ski and board sports, swimming, table tennis, or tennis)"—the list
of eligible sports belt loops specifically excludes the two shooting sports.
Why? (Tom Carignan, Tukabatchee Area Council, AL)
Good question! I'm going to take a guess here... As you know, both archery and
bb gun shooting can only be done at BSA venues under the direction of a
qualified range officer; therefore, they're not necessarily available year-round
or necessarily to every boy enrolled in the Cub Scout program. This would mean
that if the Webelos-Sportsman activity badge were in any way dependent upon
either of these, it might limit a Webelos Scout's ability to earn that
particular activity badge. Consequently, if these two aren't a part of earning
that badge, but all other sports are, then that activity badge is available to
all Webelos Scouts. But, that's just a guess. Another guess might be that it's
simply an oversight. For a more authoritative viewpoint, you may want to call
the BSA national office in Texas.
Dear Andy,
For a number of years, our troop has taken the position that Camping merit badge
requirement 9.(b) is met by completing two (i.e., both) of the listed activities
while on a single “camping experience.” One of our parents is now claiming that
a Scout can meet requirement 9.(b) by doing each of the two listed activities
over multiple camping experiences; that is, complete one activity on
camping trip “a” and the second on camping trip “b”—and we in the troop
disagree. We’d greatly appreciate if you could explain how this requirement is
met: Does a Scout need to complete both activities on a single camping trip, or
can he complete one on one trip and the other on another trip? (Ralph Sloan, SM,
Flint River Council, GA)
Forgive me, but my first question to you all is this: What is a troop doing,
meddling in merit badge requirements, when only a Merit Badge Counselor (and
nobody else) has the authority to qualify Scouts for merit badges and their
requirements—and that's a BSA rule.
But, to answer your question, let’s start by reading the requirement: The Scout
will do any two of six different activities "on any of these camping
experiences"—referring, of course, to the 20 days-and-nights of req. 9.(a). Does
it say "only one activity per camping experience"? Nope! Does it say "both
activities must be done on the same camping experience"? Nope again! So, it
sure looks like a Scout is at liberty to do both on one campout, or one each on
two different campouts.
Dear Andy,
I’ve come across
information regarding the rockets that you American Cub Scouts race… Are these
kits only available in the U.S.? If so, is it possible to arrange for kits to be
sent to us, or do the Cubs make their own rockets?
Several leaders
and I are also interested in linking with a Scouting group from the States. Is
there a site with the names of Groups interested in linking/twinning. (We
already have a twin Group in Kenya who we’ve helped start their own Group and we
raise money to help the Group run.) (Diana MacDonald, Beaver & Cub Leader, 1st
Bracebridge Scouting, Ontario, Canada)
Thanks for finding me, and for writing! For the Cub Scout rockets, go to
www.Scoutstuff.org
and then enter "space derby" in the keyword search dialog box—and we have
lift-off!
For linking up, pick
a U.S. town or city, get the ZIP code for it, and then go to www.scouting.org.
There, enter click on the “Find Local Council” link, then enter the ZIP code.
This will give you the name of the local council that serves that town or city.
Contact the council, tell them who you are and what you’d like to do, and
they’ll put you in touch with one or more Cub Scout packs!
(When I was a Cub
Scout leader, we linked up with a British Cub Scout pack (this was
“pre-Internet”) and our boys had a wonderful time sending letters back and forth
to one another, and I became personal friends with the leaders there! I hope
this works out for you, because it’s a marvelous experience for all!)
Dear Andy,
Does the location
a Webelos den uses for a campout have to be an approved site through our local
council? We have a den that wants to sleep out in the back yard of one of the
den parents. I thought that any site that’s used for a campout like this must
be approved through the local council office. Related to this, can the leaders
of the den just call it a “family campout” so as not to have to get the site
approved? And, can the Webelos Scouts work on advancement while at an
unapproved site? (Matt Henderson, CM, Great Trail Council, OH)
One piece is missing here... Why would a council service center not
approve the back yard of a den parent? Anyway, den campouts—with no less than
one parent or authorized adult per boy—is absolutely OK and that den should by
all means go right ahead! As far as advancement activities are concerned,
Webelos Scouts can work on activity badges, etc., anywhere—“approved location”
simply isn't a part of the equation.
Hi Andy,
My son would like
to be the Chaplain's Aide in our Boy Scout troop. He earned his religious emblem
as a Cub Scout. To be a Chaplain's Aide does he need to complete the religious
emblem program for the Boy Scout age level? (I thought that once you earned the
award in Cub Scouts, you could wear the knot on your uniform as a Boy Scout—is
it not transferred from Cub Scouts to Boy Scouts?) (Laura, San Francisco Bay
Area Council, CA)
Chaplain Aide is a Boy Scout troop leadership position, and for this there's a
round "position" badge that's worn on the left sleeve below the troop numeral.
Scouts who hold this position typically work with the guidance of the troop
Chaplain, who is an adult--this is how the Scout learns the job and gains in
leadership skills. It is a good idea, but not mandatory, that a Boy Scout earn
the religious award of his faith in order to be a Chaplain Aide.
Separately, the silver-on-purple square knot (worn centered, directly over the
left pocket) signifies having earned the religious award. If earned in the Cub
Scouting program, this badge can be transferred to the Boy Scout uniform. Often
a miniature brass-colored Cub Scout "device" is pinned in the center of the
square knot, indicating the program level in which it was earned; however, the
device isn't in any way mandatory. If a Boy Scout goes on to earn the Boy
Scout-level religious award, then the Boy Scout device is worn on the square
knot, in addition to the Cub Scout device.
Dear Andy,
In your October 8th column, the question of whether cork (“pop”) guns
are approved for Cub Scouts arose and you said that “Cub Scouts can shoot real
bb-guns under the direction of a qualified range officer at a supervised range
on BSA property.”
You've missed the big requirement: that of council management (as in day camp,
resident camp, or other program). In fact, in years
past, this used to say "council or district." Here's the verbatim text from the
GTSS: “Cub Scouting Standards: Youth members of Cub Scouting are permitted to
participate in the shooting activities named in here only. Archery and BB gun
shooting are restricted to day camps, Cub Scout/Webelos Scout resident camps,
council-managed family camping programs, or to council activities where there
are properly trained supervisors and all standards for BSA shooting sports are
enforced. Archery and BB gun shooting are not to be done at the pack level. Cub
Scouts are not permitted to use any other type of handgun or firearm.” (Carl
Sommer, CM, Occoneechee Council, SC)
You're right—I didn't give the whole nine yards. Just enough, I hope, to make
the point that pop guns are just a little silly (without beating anyone over the
head!).
Dear Andy,
I’m a new Scoutmaster of a troop of 74 Scouts. Our Scouts have the
normal issues in Scouting with conflicting schedules with other activities and
can’t participate in all troop activities. Many of our Scouts—32 or 33 are First
Class, Star, and Life--need leadership positions for rank advancement. Are there
any limitations on the number of certain positions, like Scribe, Historian,
Quartermaster, ASPL, and so on? I understand minimum attendance requirements,
but I can also see the need for us to have multiple Scouts per position to cover
all our bases. I think that pairing up Scouts for a position would also teach
teamwork. I’d like to touch on this subject with our troop, but want to confirm
any guidelines first. (Steve Smith, San Francisco Bay
Area Council, CA)
You have, I'm guessing, somewhere around 9 to 11 patrols, so of your 32 or so
Scouts First Class through Life, 9 to 11 are likely Patrol Leaders, leaving
about 22. Of these, you can have a SPL, ASPL (maybe two), a couple of Troop
Guides (for new Scout patrols), Scribe, Quartermaster,
Historian, several Den Chiefs, Troop OA Representative, a couple of Instructors,
Librarian, a JASM or two, and a Chaplain Aide, so that takes care of at least
16-18 Scouts or so, leaving maybe just 4 to 6 or so remaining without immediate
positions.
But, six months from your last troop elections, you'll have new elections, and
possibly new appointments as well, so that's when the remaining 6 or so can pick
up positions—if they've demonstrated that they're ready to step up to
leadership.
You see, there's no "entitlement" in a Boy Scout troop... Just because a Scout
may "need" a leadership position to advance, that doesn't mean he automatically
gets one right then and there. Sometimes, he waits his turn, so to speak.
Sometimes, even though he wants to be Patrol Leader, let's say, he doesn't get
elected! If this happens, the troop isn't under some unwritten "obligation" to
find a leadership slot for him—sometimes he needs to take the next six months
being a really good guy, good helper, willing to dig in and get any job done,
and so on, so that his patrol members start thinking he'd be a pretty good
Patrol Leader the next time there's an election. Same thing with appointed
positions. Just because little Fargus "wants" to be Scribe, let's say, he's
going to need to show up more often, to prove he can handle the job!
"Splitting" positions isn't a wonderful idea, because it diminishes the
importance of leadership positions and tells Scouts that "half a job is good
enough"—when we all know that "good enough" isn't. Then, there's the notion of
"co-" as in "co-Scribes" or "co-something else" But, think about any
commercial or military aircraft: How many copilots are aboard? Answer: Just
one. Why? Simple: the "copilot" is the assistant pilot! There's only
one pilot aboard—the guy in charge! So let's just forget both of these notions.
If you get pressure from parents ("Why isn't my little Fargus here the
Grand Poobah yet? He need this to make Star!"),
you tell 'em their little gem will get his position when he's ready and when the
troop’s ready for him; in the meanwhile, here's what he can do to show he's
ready...(short list follows).
Are you getting this? Are we clicking, here? Good!
Dear Andy,
I am trying to
find in the official national BSA documentation where it explains that a Tiger
Cub Scout must be with his adult partner on activities. I can't find it in the
GTSS or anywhere else. I’m looking for official documentation, not
"explanations" on unofficial websites. (Joan Tengler-Boyd, District
Commissioner, Bay Area Council, TX)
Try the Tiger Cub Handbook—Parents Section.
Dear Andy,
I’m a new Scoutmaster in a troop that’s been following a “different drummer”
than Scouting’s written program and processes, and I’m working with the troop
committee to get more in line with the way Scouting’s supposed to be done.
I’m trying to
find, in writing, something "official" about who can sign off on a Scout’s
advancement—especially Tenderfoot through First Class—but without success. It’s
been my understanding that a parent may not sign off, but I can find nothing
"official" that says that. I find allusions to this on troop websites and in
your columns, but I’d like to be able to point to something more firm (for
instance, I didn’t know that a Scoutmaster can’t sign off on uncompleted merit
badge requirements, but I now see that very clearly). Do you know what I can
point to, so that parents won’t think this is just “the new Scoutmaster making
things up”? (Name & Council Withheld)
You've asked two questions that are very easy to answer...
Turn to pages 438 to 449 in the 11th Edition of the Boy Scout Handbook,
and/or pages 432 to 443 in the new 12th Edition... See the boxes on the right
side of the ranks and requirements... It says "Leader initial and date." It
doesn't say "anybody..." or "parent..." it says LEADER. This is you, the
Scoutmaster, or your designate(s), which can include one or more ASMs as you
decide, or even Patrol Leader(s) or upper-rank (i.e., Star, Life, Eagle)
Scouts. It might also include a committee member or an "expert" that you've
asked to assist. But this is your decision and no one else's.
(By way of insight, many parents somehow think Boy Scouts is "Big Cub Scouts" or
"Webelos 3" and this is where they go astray, because parents are absolutely not
"authorized" to arbitrarily sign off on requirements.)
To anyone who argues, just show it to 'em in black-and-white, right in their
son's own handbook!
On merit badges, the RULES AND REGULATIONS OF THE BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA, ARTICLE
X. PROGRAM, ADVANCEMENT SECTION 1., Responsibility for Merit Badges Clause 14.
states: "The responsibility for merit badges shall rest with the merit badge
counselor...the merit badge counselor shall prepare and qualify youth members."
Observe that there’s no provision made for anyone other than the merit badge
counselor to qualify or complete the qualification of a youth member for a merit
badge. Moreover, people need to realize that neither Scoutmasters nor anyone
else are in any way "de facto merit badge counselors."
What folks will need to get through their noggins is that this isn't about you
“making up new rules”—this is about following the BSA program as written.
Now let's add some "philosophical" stuff here, so that maybe folks'll better
understand...
If Boy Scouts' Mommies and Daddies could sign off on requirements for ranks and
such, there would be no need for Scouting! For the past 100 years, Boy Scouting
has been about supporting a teen's needs for independence and
individuation—natural components of the maturation process. Boy Scouting is
built around peer-relationships and self-government by boys and young men
themselves. This is not, nor has it ever been, a parent-and-son program. In
fact, all adults, including the Scoutmaster, do the best service to youth when
they're "wallpaper." This is the underlying reason why Mom and Dad don't "work
with their son" on requirements—Instead, this boy learns from his peers, in a
hands-on environment.
If Merit Badge Counselors didn't have sole responsibility for qualifying Scouts,
then why bother having Merit Badge Counselors—anybody can sign a Scout off, any
way he or she likes! Which would also mean that anybody could block or refuse a
Scout, too! Or, anybody could override what a Merit Badge Counselor has already
done. In short, the whole merit badge program, having been undermined at its
very core, would rapidly devolve into chaos.
Hi
Andy,
As a new
Scoutmaster, I’m trying to follow your advice and use BSA policies and the
Scoutmaster Handbook to resolve an issue. It seems clear that a Scout needs
the Scoutmaster’s approval prior to working on a merit badge and that the
Scoutmaster should direct the Scout to the appropriate counselor. The issue I’m
facing is a mother who insists on signing her new Scout son up for a “Merit
Badge Day” to take First Aid merit badge. This young Scout isn’t even Tenderfoot
yet, and hasn’t completed even so much as the Tenderfoot first aid requirements.
Moreover, this would be his first experience with a merit badge, and I think
that a Scout's first experience should be a fun merit badge rather than a
“classroom” one. So, all in all, I not only don’t think this Scout is
qualified, but I also don’t think that this particular merit badge is a good way
to start out. In other columns, you make it seem that, as long as the Scout is
registered, I have to sign the blue card indicating that I approve, and that
he’s qualified. How would you handle this situation? (Name & Council Withheld)
You're
correct that Scoutmasters don't "approve" or "not approve" Scouts interested in
merit badges—this is purely and 100% the Scout's decision. Just follow the
procedure described on page 187 of the Boy Scout Handbook-Eleventh Edition.
The usual "blue card" does ask for the Scoutmaster's signature on the front, and
this is for administrative purposes: It insures that the Scoutmaster has a
knowledge of what merit badges the Scouts of the troop he serves are interested
in, thus provides the opportunity for follow-up (as in "Hey, Billy, how's it
going with that Woodcarving merit badge you started last month?").
Scoutmasters can’t be expected to be "mind readers" or "Solomon" or anything
else when it comes to merit badges. Scouting literature tells the Scout, simply
and succinctly: "Any Scout can work on any merit badge at any
time" (italics mine).
Merit Badge Counselors (aka "MBCs") have sole and total say-so with regard to
merit badges and the completion of their requirements. These are the men and
women who counsel Scouts—They're not "examiners" or "test-givers" or anything
else along those lines; they teach, coach, guide, instruct, mentor, and assist,
but they don't give "final exams." In the process of counseling, a MBC for
First Aid might decide to help a Scout learn what he needs to know to fulfill
req. 1, or (this might or might not be rare), he or she might say, "Come back
after you've completed those rank requirements." Whichever it is, this is the
MBC's decision; not yours or anyone else's.
Now, to the subject of parents who think Boy Scouting is "Webelos 3"... The
first thing we need to remember is that we can't save boys from their own
parents! Yes, the mother that you refer to is being a bit pushy with her son,
and this is regrettable. But you're the Scoutmaster. You're not "Dr. Phil"
anymore than you’re “Judge Judy.” You could turn the boy down, and risk Mom's
ire along with violating a BSA policy, and so now where are you? Or, you can do
what a Scoutmaster is supposed to do (per the handbook) and let the situation
run its natural course, except that, the week afterward, you might want
to have a sit-down (aka "Scoutmaster's conference") with this Scout and ask him
how things went when he visited with the First Aid MBC. Isn't this really what
you want to do, understanding that one of Scouting's greatest benefits to boys
and young men is that "it's a place where you can mess up and the walls don't
come crashing down"!
On the subject of "classroom merit badges," I personally despise them, as I
despise anything in Scouting that's made to look like a classroom—Scouting is a
magnet for boys precisely because it's not like school! But, some Scouts do
thrive on this method, so who am I to say no-go? Best to leave this alone, too,
and let the Scout start sorting things out for himself.
The short way of saying all this, of course, is simply: Be his Scoutmaster--in
the essential sense Baden-Powell first had in mind!
Thanks for
the advice—I definitely think its worth following and I especially like
"remember that we can't save boys from their own parents!" and "best to leave
this alone, too, and let the Scout start sorting things out for himself." I
think these will frequently be very valuable to remember and will make my job as
Scoutmaster easier.
As far as the
Scoutmaster’s role with blue cards, it seems like there definitely is confusion
in the official literature. The Scout Handbook says "any Scout at any time"
while the Scoutmaster Handbook and www.scouting.org--merit
badge procedure say "any Scout at any time with Scoutmaster approval." The blue
card wording makes the confusion even worse. Are you aware of any effort to
clarify the literature?
Maybe you want to make up a list of what a Scout would have to do or be
to receive your "approval" and then make a list of what will "disqualify" a
Scout, but I sure don't want to mess with this! So, how about we stick to
delivering what the Scout’s books tell him: He can go for any merit badge, any
time he wants. Isn't self-determination what we're trying to teach, and doesn't
he face enough "roadblocks" and "gatekeepers" at home, at school, in sports, at
church, and on and on? Let's let Scouting be his safe and trusted haven.
I agree.
My comment was only that the literature is contradictory. A few lines in the
Scoutmaster Handbook could clarify the issue for everyone. I was hoping someone
was working on this or that the BSA has a process to collect comments for
future editions. Thanks for the discussion—it’s helped me.
We're on the same page here! Yup, I sure wish that the "powers that be" might
consider hammering this home, because too many folks are fond of taking
liberties, often simply because "it doesn't say I can't"! What they overlook,
of course, is that, just like the Scout Law, Scouting is about positives and
what we can do; not a bunch of no-no's!
Hello Andy,
Please help me
verify what my duties are as advancement chair. I attend all of the weekly troop
and monthly committee meetings, work with the Scribe and log in attendance and
the requirements completed by each Scout, register the Scouts for merit badge
classes, summer camp, generate blue cards, log in all completed merit badges and
keep track of partial requirements completed. I keep everything up to date in
Troopmaster and speak with selected Scouts each week when they’re close to rank
completion, have partial merit badge requirements to complete, need a board of
review, or need an advancement "pep talk." In addition, I prepare all of the
awards and run the quarterly courts of honor, together with the Scoutmaster of
course.
But, at the last
troop meeting, I spoke with a Scout who was ready for a Scoutmaster conference
and board of review, and asked him if he was ready and told him that I would go
over requirements with him for Life rank (knowing that he’d had a difficult
board of review for Star), he told me that he wasn't ready yet. So I told him
to let me know when he was, and I mentioned this conversation to his mother at
the end of the meeting, but she said that they weren’t going to let him advance
yet because they wanted him to have more leadership experience. In response, I
told her just to let me know when he was ready—no problem. I thought everything
was OK until the Scoutmaster called me on the phone to tell me that this mom had
gone to our Chartered Organization Representative and told him that she had told
me that they didn't want their son to advance until he had more leadership and
that I should have talked to the parents, not the Scout, about advancing,
because this made them the "bad guys" when they had to tell him that they
wouldn’t let him advance. The COR told the Scoutmaster that I was out of line in
speaking with the Scout.
The COR,
Committee Chair, and this Scout’s parents (and, I think, two other parents) had
a private meeting last night and told the Scoutmaster and practical called me a
liar when I wasn't there to defend myself. I didn’t know until after I spoke
with their son. I told the Scoutmaster that if they ever previously told me, I
don't recall the conversation. Was I out of line talking to their son? Weren't
they out of line going to the COR? What's up?
I’ve offered to
step down as advancement chair several times because of these people, but the
Scoutmaster and Committee Chair don't want me to. I want what’s best for the
Scouts and will follow all BSA guidelines. (Name & Council Withheld)
The responsibilities of a troop advancement coordinator do include keeping and
filing records of advancement (including ranks and merit badges), scheduling
boards of review in collaboration with the Scoutmaster (he will tell you when
they're needed, on a per-Scout basis), attending meetings of the troop and the
committee, and buying the various badges in anticipation of upcoming courts of
honor. However, such areas as keeping attendance records, keeping track of
"partials," generating "blue cards," and giving Scouts advancement "pep talks,"
are outside the province of the advancement coordinator—these responsibilities
fall to others to do, not you. For instance, it’s the Scouts' responsibility to
keep track of their merit badge requirement completions, it's the Scoutmaster's
responsibility to have "pep talks" (called Scoutmaster's conferences), and the
responsibility of the youth leaders to conduct courts of honor (guided by the
Scoutmaster). Moreover, neither ranks nor merit badges are “held back" if all
requirements have been completed. Moreover, it’s not the responsibility of the
advancement coordinator to confer with a Scout regarding his Scoutmaster
conference, or to schedule this—this is entirely the Scoutmaster's
responsibility. Nor is it the responsibility of the advancement coordinator to
"go over requirements" with a Scout ready to advance in rank—this isn't
necessary because neither Scoutmaster's conferences nor boards of review include
any conversation about requirements other than the positive (or otherwise)
experience the Scout had in completing them: There are no re-tests whatsoever.
Consequently, a conversation between the advancement coordinator and a Scout
regarding his "readiness" for a Scoutmaster conference would have to be
considered inappropriate, as would a similar conversation with a Scout with
regard to a board of review.
However, parents who intercede in the advancement process, between their Scout
son and his Scoutmaster, are acting inappropriately as well.
Advancement
ultimately belongs to the Scout, and is supported by the Scoutmaster and
coordinated and recorded by the advancement coordinator.
Probably, you all need to step back, take deep breaths, and review how the
advancement process in a troop is actually supposed to work. You all would do
well to use the Scoutmaster Handbook as your guide.
Finally for today, here’s a question to the USSSP Team, responded to by our
Netcommish and Webmaster…
In reading on your website on proper flag etiquette, I have a
question about the direction of the flag union on the Boy Scout
uniform (right sleeve). I’ve never read any official document stating which way
the flag needs to face. I’m a professional firefighter and we’ve generally
adopted the military way of displaying the flag, which is on the right shoulder
with the union facing forward, as you always lead with the stars. I’ve brought
this up to the local BSA officials, looking for some answers, and the only one
I’ve received is that the BSA is correct. Do you have any publications on flag
etiquette that specifically address this issue? (Shaun Eberdt, Glacier’s Edge
Council, WI)
Thank you for writing to the U.S. Scouting Service Project. You have a
good question and one that’s frequently asked. The
uniformed services of the
U.S. and many state and local government organizations take the view that
when the flag is displayed on a shoulder the union field should lead, as
the flag moves forward. This is not unlike a flag on the field of battle, where
the leading edge is moving forward, and from that perspective makes a lot of
sense. The BSA decided that the flag should appear to the viewer as it would be
displayed in a meeting room on a wall, where the rule is that the flag takes its
own right; that is, the union field is to the flag's own right. This is
consistent with the U.S. Flag Code. Depending on one's view, both are correct
interpretations and allowable. In the case of Scouting, an additional
consideration was that in the absence of any other flag, the flag patch on the
shoulder would serve for flag ceremonies; that is, one Scout at attention at
right angles to the troop, with flag in proper position for salutes,
pledge of allegiance, and so on. The
bottom-line is that there is no one single legally correct or mandated way of
displaying the flag on a shoulder patch—both ways are legitimate. Thousands of
service members who also serve in Scouting regularly wear the flag one way, and
the other way while in their service uniforms. So until the U.S. Flag Code is
changed to mandate a
single specific way of doing this, I’d simply say wear the flag in the way
each organization has decided for its uniform.
To which I would add this small further point: In light of how the flag badge
the BSA uses is embroidered, it can face in only one direction on the right
sleeve. Further, until about two decades ago, the American flag was worn on the
front of the Cub Scout uniform shirt, centered above the right pocket, and the
patch itself, although it changed locations, has not been altered as regards its
embroidery stitching and orientation.
Happy Scouting!
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