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Dear Andy,
I'd like to encourage you to think more clearly about your comment, "...as they
spend fretting about patches and where they go, Scouting would be a whole lot
better! Ya think?" in your November 18th column. The BSA's Insignia
Guide shouldn’t be considered any less integral to the Scouting program than any
other element or policy. It's there for a reason, and should be followed.
Finding Scouts out of uniform compliance isn’t as bad as it is finding Scouters
out of uniform compliance, particularly those who choose to ignore the Insignia
Guide just because of inconvenience or laziness on their part.
I always commend a Scout whose uniform looks good. Not so with a Scouter who’s
wearing blue jeans with a uniform shirt not tucked, and with two position
badges on the sleeve, with the argument that they have two positions in the
unit. Geez! (Baron Bieber, UC, South Florida Council)
That quote related
to a protracted discussion about where the “field” of the American flag should
be, when it’s a uniform badge, so in light of the fact that uniform shirts come
with the flag already sewn on, my entire statement should have bee cited, and
not just a fragment. Here’s the whole thing: "If folks spent as much time
learning, for instance, why The Patrol Method is the only method used in
Boy Scouts as they spend fretting about patches and where they go, Scouting
would be a whole lot better!" The point's obvious, especially if you've read a
bunch of my columns.
That said, yes, uniforming and getting it right is definitely important. We
don't send our kids out onto soccer fields wearing the jersey, cleats, and jeans
any more than they go to school wearing tank-tops and flip-flops, so when we're
doing Scouting, let's look like Scouts! This is, after all, one of the eight
methods of Scouting. There are, however, seven more, of at least equal
importance.
Dear Andy,
My son was injured
at a Scout meeting during their game time. He injured his hip and was out of
football for almost three weeks. I also did the whole x-ray and doctor visit
thing, not knowing what was the problem. I was very irked at the leaders who
were supposed to be watching the game outside (I was in a committee meeting,
inside the building); even more so when I learned that the Scouts "always" play
British Bulldog with full tackling involved. I have a very high medical
deductible, and I’m now faced with $500 in medical bills for this incident.
Should I make a big deal about this? Does the BSA have insurance to cover
something like this? I'm not interested in suing or getting the chartered
organization all involved, but my son's troop needs to wake up and see that they
need to be responsible for what games the Scouts play. Obviously, I let my son
play team football, so I'm open to tackling, but that’s with full protective
gear: helmet, pads, and mouth-guard. In speaking with other Scouting leaders in
my area, this game has been banned for being rough, producing broken bones, etc.
What do you think I should do, if anything? (Name & Council Withheld)
Yes, you should make a big deal of this, because unlike unpredictable accidents,
playing—as you described it—a full-tackle, football-type game is not authorized
in the BSA's Scouting program, at any level.
First, "Wikipedia" says this about British Bulldog: "British bulldogs (often the
singular British bulldog, also bulldog, bulldogs or bullies) is a tag-based
game, of which Red Rover and Cocky Laura are descendants... The game is
characterized by its physicality, often being regarded as violence (and) leading
it to be banned from many schools..."
Although it's largely played as a "tagging" game, it can devolve into a
"tackling"-type game, along the lines of American football. The BSA says this
about all football-type activities (See the Guide To Safe Scouting or
GTSS): "...football...activities are unauthorized activities." The GTSS is, of
course, silent on protective gear necessary for football-type activities,
because the activities themselves are unauthorized in the Scouting program.
I’m not a professional authority on matters of safety and/or safe activities;
however, your council has either or both a Health & Safety Committee and Risk
Management Committee. These committees are worth contacting, through your local
council's Scout Executive.
Do alert the troop's Committee Chair, in a personal conversation (NOT email!)
that you will be pursuing reimbursement for this incident through council
channels, and ask for his help in contacting the right people, quickly. (If he
doesn't get the idea that the troop needs to find a different game, then it may
be time to bring this to the attention of the chartered organization, because it
is potentially liable for injuries occurring on its grounds and/or under its
auspices, because, as the actual "owner" of the troop, it may be ultimately
liable for injuries.)
Dear Andy,
My son is a Bear Cub Scout. I believe there should be belt loops for sewing and
cooking. The men of today need to know these skills. (Tracie Sitka, Aloha
Council, HI)
I agree with you and I’m happy to let you know that cooking is something the BSA
has definitely incorporated into the overall Scouting program. Your son just
hasn't hit it yet. He will. Be patient. As for sewing, yes, I agree with you
that this is an important skill worth knowing how to do. However, not all such
skills have badges, pins, patches, or belt loops at the end...some thing are
learned just for the joy of learning, and knowing how to do them! This is one
of those, and I hope that you'll teach this to your son even though the reward
here is the satisfaction of knowing how, even though there's no shiny thing to
put on a uniform!
Dear Andy,
My son is a Life Scout and a high school sophomore. He was not recommended by
his Scoutmaster for NYLT last summer, or the summer before. My son has said
that he’d like to attend NYLT this coming summer, but his Scoutmaster doesn’t
see the value of Scouts attending NYLT after the summer before their sophomore
year, because, he says, they most likely will get too busy to "give back" to the
troop by serving in a leadership position like Senior Patrol Leader, Patrol
Leader, Troop Guide, and so on. Does a Scoutmaster have absolute control over
whether or not a Scout can attend NYLT, like this? (Name & Council Withheld)
First, what I'm getting here is that your son is not being singled out. This is
a "blanket" opinion of the Scoutmaster. It's
baloney, of course, because it's a self-fulfilling prophesy.
Get in touch with your local council, track down the name and contact
information for the council's NYLT Course Director, contact him or her and
describe exactly what you've described to me. I'll bet dollars to donuts your
son will be in the very next course!
(I'm Ccing a highly NYLT-knowledgeable fellow Scouter—John Glockner—in case he'd
like to add to what I've just suggested.)
John says:
Thanks, Andy, for copying me on this e-mail exchange. Needless to
say, the reported situation frustrates me whenever I hear of it.
Although the Scoutmaster’s signature is technically "required" on a
Scout's application to attend NYLT, the lack of his signature cannot be used to
prevent a Scout from attending NYLT. The Scoutmaster's position is very
short-sighted and doesn’t take into account that boys mature at different stages
during their teen years. A youth's development shouldn’t depend solely on
whether or not his NYLT experience will directly influence his Troop. His
personal development is what should count.
Andy has suggested an excellent solution. I would add that a
contact with your District and/or Council Training Chair would provide
some additional support to get your son approved to participate in your
Council's NYLT in 2010.
In addition, if your son enjoys his NYLT experience, he might well
consider attending the NAYLE program at Philmont.
For more information about it, go to
www.NAYLE.org The information about the 2010 courses will be
available shortly. Good luck; don't take no for an answer!
Dear Andy,
Our Committee Chair
(who is new to the troop) has said that that he “may have some difficulty"
signing my sons’ Eagle projects and rank applications because they’ve not been
as involved in the troop as he would like.
That said, my sons
have put in enough time and service to make Eagle twice over, and yet now they
just want to give up because of this new Chair’s attitude. Now they’re
hesitant about completing their Eagle projects, for fear that the Committee
Chair will stand in their way. (Concerned Mom in Okefenokee Area Council)
It needs to be immediately pointed out to this new Committee Chair that the
requirement (no.4) states, "Serve actively for a period of six months..." and it
absolutely does not say "be as active as the committee chair would like."
Moreover, the BSA national council states that no "numbers" or "percentages" may
be applied to the term, "active": so long as the Scout is registered and is
current with his dues, he is to be considered active. Finally, the BSA
absolutely does not permit any individual, unit, district, or council to alter
any advancement requirement.
If the Committee Chair doesn’t agree to abide by BSA polices, then you have the
wrong man in the job and his immediate replacement is mandatory, for the health
of the troop as a whole.
Team up with your sons’ dad and other parents whose sons may be in a similar
situation, and don't let this new guy run roughshod over an already successful
troop. Get a Unit Commissioner involved... one who can help and guide you all
in solving this problem.
Hi Andy,
Our troop will be
celebrating our Scoutmaster’s 40th continuous year of service to our
troop. He began as a young man in 1969, with a promise to his minister to serve
for two years. He has since grown the troop into the largest in the council,
and in 40 years has produced over 600 Eagle Scouts.
I’m curious about
other long-tenured Scoutmasters across the country… Do you have any idea who the
longest-serving might be, and for how long? Is there a list maintained by
anyone? Thanks. (Don Hull, ASM, Indian Nations Council, OK)
I don't personally know of any sort of a "list" of long-serving Scoutmasters,
but I did know a man who had served for approximately 60 continuous years before
he joined the Great Scoutmaster of All Scouts. I'll be happy to publish your
question, however, and we'll see if there are any responses!
Readers: Do you know
of any Scoutmasters who have served the same troop for three, four, or more
decades? If you do, please write to me and I’ll include your responses in an
upcoming column!
Dear Andy,
I’m the treasurer
for our pack. Recently, we discovered that the prior treasurer had withdrawn
$300 from the pack account for herself, and not paid it back. We went to see
her and asked her about it, and she admitted that she had “accidently” (her
word) taken the money from the account. She said she couldn’t replace it until
she got paid. That was three weeks ago and she’s only returned $125—She still
owes $175. Are we on our own in this, or will the council help us? (We’ve
contacted the council, but were pretty much told to try to handle it on our
own.) (Name & Council Withheld)
The BSA council doesn't own the pack; the pack's sponsor (aka chartered
organization) does. Therefore, the council is pretty powerless. But the
sponsor isn't, and may choose to come to your aid in collecting the money owed
if you approach them with the problem. Now you could make a civil or small
claims suit out of this, but you'll need to weigh the consequences in time,
cost, and notoriety before you proceed... Is $175 worth the energy, guaranteed
animosity, and rancor further pursuit will engender? You might want to try
putting this person on a "payment plan" instead... Perhaps seven payments of $25
each, over a couple of months or so. If not, perhaps the wisest thing would be
to let this go, except as a lesson for you all about making sure all future
treasurers provide monthly accounting of all funds in and out.
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Dear Andy,
Several of
our Scouts have earned the Paul Bunyan Woodsman award. Can this patch
be worn on the uniform? If so, where is it placed? (Kevin Casey, ASM,
Chicago Area Council, IL)
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This patch—a
double-bladed axe—may be sewn on a Scout's backpack, or on a patch blanket or
other memorabilia holder. It is definitely not sewn on his
uniform—anywhere.
Hi Andy,
Recently, I was
presenting at our College of Commissioner’s Science on “Effective Unit Service
in Remote Rural Areas” (ECS 406) when a great question was asked and I wasn’t
sure how to answer it. We were talking about the use of Den Aides instead of
Den Chiefs, and I described this position as a non-registered, non-member
volunteer. Which gave rise to this question: If a Den Aide isn’t BSA-registered,
what if an accident or injury was to befall while on a field trip… Will the BSA
insurance policy cover this position even though it’s non-registered (i.e., not
an official BSA member)? Well of course, when I got home, I took time poring
through some resources, but I’ve had no luck finding an answer. What’s your
take on this? (Jon Larsen, DC, Longs Peak Council, CO)
When a Cub Scout has an older brother who's a Boy Scout, it's not unusual for
that Boy Scout to become the Den Chief for his younger brother's den. But what
if it's an older sister, and she'd like to help out? That's where Den Aide
often kicks in, to more or less “legitimize” her. Den Aides, although not
registered with the BSA or the unit, are—just like anyone else accompanying the
unit on a field trip—covered by BSA insurance as a guest of the unit.
That said, and with the understanding that I'm not an expert on this subject,
the BSA insurance is usually the very last insurance to kick in—that is, all
other insurances are utilized first, and the BSA's is more or less a last resort
in case of a catastrophe. This is what any number of BSA professionals have
stated when I’ve inquired about this point, but to be absolutely sure, do check
with your own council's risk management committee.
Dear Andy,
What’s been your experience with troops being tax-exempt under Section 501(c)(3)
of the Internal Revenue Code, and can a troop pursue grant funds for service
projects? (Name & Council Withheld)
No Scouting unit is automatically a 501(c)(3) charitable organization. If a
unit wishes to apply for this designation, there is ample on-line information by
the IRS for doing so (see
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1023.pdf). More typically, however,
the unit simply uses the tax number of its chartered organization (these are
almost all 501(c)(3) organizations, and can legally lend their number to the
unit they sponsor). If the chartered organization is not a 501(c)(3), then the
unit may request the 501(c)(3) tax ID number of their local BSA council. (This
information was provided to me by the head of accounting of a local BSA council,
and I'm repeating it here for you.)
Everything you’ve stated I know is accurate; however, when I spoke with our home
council, they wanted all funds to go through them, which we felt uncomfortable
with. But we can’t use our chartered organization’s tax ID number because it’s
a church, and every fund-granting agency we’ve spoken with has said that they
can’t give funds to a religious organization, even if the troop would be the
final recipient. So, by having our own tax ID number, funds could come directly
to the troop. So, can we apply for 501(c)(3) status?
Before you get all exercised about this, have you actually looked at the W-9
form that's typically requested by donors? It asks for the name of the
organization, so you write in Troop 123-BSA. Then it asks you to check off a
box describing the type of organization, and you check "other" and write in BSA
Troop, and you also check off the box for "exempt from
backup withholding." Next, you write in the troop's mailing address
(this can be your sponsor’s address, because that’s where you meet). Finally,
in Part I, you write in the TIN (Taxpayer
Identification Number), which is, of course, your sponsor’s, or your
local council’s. Finally, the Committee Chair signs and dates it, and you give
a copy of it to the grantor. That's it. The funds don’t need to go through the
council, or they can if that’s what the council wishes… simply have the funds
sent to your own address and then take them to your own bank or send them to the
council’s service center with a cover letter confirming the amount of the
funds—whichever is finally decided.
To have the money run through the council, simply get an accounting code from
the council's accounting department and then ask all donors to put that
accounting code on the "memo" line of their check.
This is the small end of the stick; the big end is writing the
grant request!
Hey Andy,
We have an active troop that absolutely uses The Patrol Method. The PLC meets
and plans the troop’s outdoor program agenda, such as where and when we
go camping. They plan a camping trip for each month of the year. As I've read
your column over the years, I've reflected on our own troop and been gratified
to see that we do a pretty good job of staying focused on "True North." However,
questions do come up, like this one…
For several years now, the PLC has produced an annual agenda that has minimal
involvement in council-sponsored activities (camporees, merit badge weekends,
etc.). They typically plan on one council event a year (usually a service
weekend, cleaning up the council summer camp). The PLC always has a copy of the
council's event calendar when they do their planning, but except for this one
event, there’s nothing else. It must be said, however, that the PLC's current
outdoor activity schedule keeps our Scouts motivated and involved.
However, I recall
that when I was a Scout, our troop participated in lots of camporees and
council-sponsored events; in fact, these were the dominant events on our outdoor
schedule! We enjoyed the opportunity those events provided to interact with
other Scouts and troops, and we also enjoyed the competitions and organized
games that went along with the camporees.
Should our PLC be encouraged to increase participation in council-sponsored
events? What’s the responsibility, if any, of Scout units in supporting council
activities—specifically, the outdoor events? If the PLC doesn't want to do
camporees, is that a problem? (Carl Wentzel, CC, Tidewater Council, VA)
Although Boy Scout troops can be perfectly self-sufficient and offer good
Scouting without ever participating in district or council or national events or
take advantage of wider opportunities, a troop's program and the overall
experience of the Scouts it serves can be greatly enhanced by getting involved.
The best troops I've seen in some 20 years as a Commissioner, just like Eagle
Scouts, get involved in everything! They take treks at Philmont, canoe
expeditions at the Northern Tier Canoe Base, sailing adventures at Sea Base,
send their patrols to compete at Camporees, send their Scouts to Jamborees, send
their leaders to NYLT and NJLIC and now NAYLE, go to their council's summer
camp, and some even go overseas and link up with other Scouting organizations'
events (The biannual "Jamborette" at Blair Athol in Scotland is a wonderful
example of this--Google it and check it out!) because these activities and
venues strengthen and broaden the experiences and "world-view" of their Scouts.
In short, there are tremendous advantages, and no disadvantages, to "getting out
there"!
(The Jamboree's virtually in your back yard, for goodness sakes!)
One of the Scoutmaster's important responsibilities is to guide and advise the
PLC (in other words, it's not merely "whatever the Scouts want"—their thinking
and program selections are directed, so that they get the most out of the
program). Consequently, unless the Scoutmaster himself wants to troop to remain
parochial and relatively isolated from the larger Scouting world, he will
encourage the PLC to add as many larger opportunities to the troop's annual
schedule as possible!
On the question of "...if a PLC doesn't want to do Camporees," I'd have to ask,
why not? Camporees are fun, challenging, and expand a Scout's
understanding of just how big Scouting really is! I can't think of a single
reason why a PLC wouldn't want to do this, except, perhaps, fear of the unknown
(which is perfectly understandable in a troop that's avoided this for years).
It's time to break out!
Hi Andy,
Annually, our
district has a one-day merit badge event at which Scouts can choose up to four
badges to work on. They’re provided the prerequisites in advance, which are
reviewed at the event, and then the balance of the requirements are covered in
either a 90 minute or three session (depending on the complexity of the merit
badge). It's a great concept and the Scouts seem to really enjoy it; however,
it really bugs me that nearly every prerequisite says, “Must Read The Merit
Badge Pamphlet.” It's my understanding that having and reading a merit badge
pamphlet is not a BSA requirement. The pamphlets are informative and a
definite advantage when working on the requirements, and I’d never say that it's
not a great idea for the Scouts to read. But for a Merit Badge Counselor to say
"Must Read…” is, I think, a direct violation of adding more than what the
requirements state. Am I missing something? (Name Withheld, New Michigan
Council)
First, a personal observation... As a Merit Badge Counselor for well over 100
local Scouts, on a variety of merit badges, I do expect every Scout to use the
appropriate merit badge pamphlet, because it contains the foundational
information he'll need to successfully complete the requirements. Would you
consider this "adding to requirements"? If so, then we’ll have to agree to
disagree.
As I see it, the men and women volunteers who have come out for the day to work
with Scouts on selected merit badges in a highly limited time-frame are simply
saying, "Be Prepared." That is, they're expecting the Scouts who have signed up
to have prepared themselves in advance to succeed, rather than having them show
up as "blank slates," because there's just not enough time to start entirely
from zero… If a Scout wants to start from zero, he can go through the usual
contact scenario with a MBC and do it that way, instead of going to a merit
badge day. In other words, these dedicated volunteers are asking for
collaboration, in the best interests of the Scouts themselves. Moreover, when
Scouts with some knowledge of the subject matter show up, this dramatically
reduces the chances that the merit badge sessions will turn into classroom-style
lectures, which is definitely not what merit badges are all about, and it also
reduces the possibility that Scouts will depart at the end of the day with
“partials.” So, if you still consider this "adding to requirements," that's
your prerogative, but I'd have to say your being bugged is misplaced, especially
since, as you put it so well, "It's a great concept and the Scouts seem to
really enjoy it."
Dear Andy,
My son started Cub
Scouts in the U.S. and moved to New Zealand as a Webelos, where he continued his
Scouting journey in Scouts New Zealand. Now, approaching earning the Chief Scout
Award (the highest award a Scout—up to age 14—can earn), we’re moving back to
the States. He’d like to continue in Scouting (perhaps with a BSA Venturing
crew?), and the question is this: Is there a way to cross-credit his New Zealand
Scouting experience and continue towards the BSA’s Eagle Scout rank in the U.S.?
(We’re also looking into the complementary process of having him be a “Lone
Venturer” in the Scouts New Zealand programme so that he can work toward the
Queen Scout Award (the equivalent of Eagle) while in the U.S., but there are
some rather large hurdles there.) Any information, advice, or points of contact
would be appreciated. (Dave Threlkeld, Troop Leader, St. Heliers/Glendowie Scout
Group, Auckland, NZ)
Thanks for finding me, and for writing!
The requirements for the Chief Scout Award and the Eagle Scout rank are likely
too disparate for any significant alignment, so I'm not sure I'd pursue that
path. I would, however, use the Boy Scout Handbook published by the Boy
Scouts of America to help my son earn up to First Class rank as quickly as
possible (you can register him with the BSA as a "Lone Scout," and register
yourself as his adult partner). Go to
www.scoutstuff.org
to buy the 12th edition of the Boy Scout Handbook, then go to
www.scouting.org to
get yourselves registered, and go to work! This way, when your son gets to the
States and joins a Venturing crew, by being a First Class Scout, he'll be
qualified to continue through the ranks of Star and Life, to Eagle. Since he’s
approaching 14, he definitely has the time to get there by his 18th birthday!
Dear Andy,
I’m wondering what
to do about a situation that’s causing a lot of stress for my son. He was
recently voted in as the new Senior Patrol Leader, and mostly he’s very happy
with the position and is doing a great job learning his new role. Unfortunately
we have an Assistant Scoutmaster in our troop who can be very difficult. He’s a
stickler for following every rule, requirement, and law. He knows and discusses
BSA policies and procedures in great detail with the Scouts, and this is almost
always done in a very negative way. Instead of guiding the Scouts, he’s rude to
them, points out everything they do wrong, and makes a huge fuss over anything
he sees as an infraction, no matter how small. In the past two weeks, he’s made
my son very uncomfortable in several ways. One of the problems we’ve had is that
this ASM is never available by phone. My son can call his house every night of
the week and get a busy signal, but then this man makes a lot of loud remarks
about how the phone calls to him aren’t being made. I suggested to my son that
he use email (since the busy signal’s due to dial-up Internet service that the
ASM’s always on), but he promptly told my son that email’s not an inappropriate
solution, and that his own son isn’t allowed on the computer at all, so it would
be ineffective anyway, and then he outlined my son’s phone call responsibilities
again, claiming that he’ll leave the phone open one evening a week for him. But
the night he picked is Thursday, and Thursday evenings aren’t always open for my
son, plus, the troop requires that my son’s phone calls be made before Thursday!
They also require that any boy who has not received his phone call by Thursday
is responsible to call his Patrol Leader, but this man doesn’t bring his own son
to troop meetings if he doesn’t get his phone call. (This is just an example of
the petty things that could so easily be resolved but are instead made into huge
issues.)
Although this is a
new problem for my son because he was not in a leadership position that made him
part of such issues before, it’s an ongoing problem and several other parents in
the troop have had similar things and some issues have been much more hurtful
towards specific Scouts.
On the other hand,
one parent supports these sorts of tactics, saying that we should enroll our
kids in sports because “then we’ll get used to someone else yelling at our
kids!"
We have a very
traditional troop, and our Scoutmaster is wonderful and supportive, but he has
to buffer the behaviors of this one man for the Scouts. As a committee member,
I’m not involved in the actual troop meetings (we may observe, but not
interrupt, and we’re often asked to stay in a back room where we won’t interrupt
or interfere with the troop meeting).
How can I provide
moral support to my son in this situation without getting my back up when he or
other Scouts are being harassed by this ASM? Better yet, is there a way to put a
stop to this altogether? (Name & Council Withheld)
First, that phone-calling procedure you've partially described is sheer nonsense
and should be thrown out as fast as possible! Scouts will show up at troop
meetings when their troop meetings are filled with fun, learning, challenges,
competitions, and good Scouting. In brief: Program Produces Participation.
The problem you described is definitely soluble... By the Scoutmaster. Frankly,
your "wonderful and supportive" Scoutmaster is neither "wonderful" nor
"supportive" if he continues to allow the Scouts he's there to serve to be
harassed, brow-beaten, and criticized by a needy bully. What should happen is
that the Scoutmaster should literally fire that ASM immediately.
As a committee member, your task—with others on the committee plus legitimately
irate parents—is to convince the Committee Chair (who’s the Scoutmaster's
"boss," BTW) to tell the Scoutmaster that he needs to remove that ASM (who
reports directly to the Scoutmaster) from his position immediately, without
hesitation or equivocation. To permit this to continue a minute longer is
tantamount to enabling a child abuser—Yes, emotional abuse is unquestionably
what's going on here.
As for your son, he does not have to allow himself to be danced around by
a needy adult who’s using the Scouts to satisfy his own emotional imbalances.
Your son has the absolute right to tell the Scoutmaster that, according to the
Boy Scouts of America, Senior Patrol Leaders do not "report" to ASMs—they
report only to Scoutmasters—and so he will no longer work with anyone except the
Scoutmaster, period.
Make this happen, before one bully intimidates an entire troop and will
ultimately cause it to self-destruct.
("But what about the ASM? We don't want to hurt his feelings!" someone may say.
To which I’d respond: Malarkey! Why are you trying to "spare the feelings" of
an adult who brow-beats your own sons!)
As for any parent who believes "kids should be yelled at" by adults, make sure
that he never, ever has any "official" contact with the Scouts, because, in
Scouting, no adult ever "yells" at youth members.
Dear Andy,
I’m a District Commissioner-elect. Before I went to our Scout shop to get
patches, I noticed on Scout Stuff, the “District Scout Commissioner” patch and
thought it may have replaced the District Commissioner patch. I inquired about
this at the Scout shop and no one could give me an answer. I found this patch in
an on-line collection from 1973. The Scout Shop also had several of these
patches for sale, along with “Assistant District Scout Commissioner” patches. Is
the District Scout Commissioner patch new, old, old but being revived, or what?
(Brad Hyndman, Mid-America Council, IN)
Those are "antiques," dating back to the early 70's. The positions are obsolete
today and the patches are in the category of "collectors' items."
The present designations are: Council Commissioner, Assistant Council
Commissioner, District Commissioner, Assistant District Commissioner, Unit
Commissioner, Boy Scout Roundtable Commissioner, and Cub Scout Roundtable
Commissioner.
Dear Andy,
My son is a Bear Cub
Scout. I’m trying to find a list of belt loops that he can earn. Do you know
where I can find the list with the requirements? (Karen Strickland, Yankee
Clipper Council, MA)
If you like, go buy the Cub Scout Academics and Sports book—it has 'em all.
BUT, make sure your son has earned his Bear badge (you are his Akela,
remember), and then earned the ten Arrow Points he can earn in the "electives"
section. After that, talk with his Den Leader about belt loops and such,
because that program is supplemental.
Hi Andy,
Is there a BSA
policy on who should be on a unit’s checking account? I recently attended a
Scouting event where a Scoutmaster in the registration line took out the unit’s
checkbook to pay the registration fee, at which point the person collecting the
fee went on at length… Why are you on the checking account? This is up to your
troop’s treasure to do! No unit leader should have their name on the unit’s
checkbook! After hearing this, I’m confused and concerned, because when I take
my troop out to events I sign the check (and always get a receipt), and no one’s
ever said anything to me about anything like what I heard that day! (Name &
Council Withheld)
As with most service organizations (Rotary, Lions, Kiwanis, Freemasons, etc.),
the usual practice is to have the treasurer and president (in the case of a
troop, the parallel to the latter position is committee chair) as signatories on
the checking account, with the understanding that the person other than the
treasurer is a "back-up" in case the treasurer isn’t available or is
incapacitated. It's not usual for anyone else to have authorization to sign
checks.
Checks for events can be written and signed by the treasurer in advance and then
given to the Scoutmaster to submit as required. Or, the treasurer (or CC) can
show up at the event and write the check on the spot.
The Scoutmaster is responsible for the program side of the troop operations; not
the administrative side—that's what the committee's for.
That said, you're certainly not doing anything illegal, and if this works for
you then leave it alone and don't worry about it. But, as a Scoutmaster myself,
I made sure I delegated as much administrative stuff as I could to the committee
(I was busy enough with the Scouts and the PLC!).
Dear Andy,
Is there an age
limit on when an Eagle Scout board of review can be held? (Kelsey Ruszkowski)
For Eagle (or any Boy Scout rank, for that matter) the cut-off on completing
actual requirements is the Scout's 18th birthday. Boards of review, however,
are not "requirements," which means that a board of review for Eagle can be
conducted with impunity even after a Scout's 18th birthday. Usually, there's a
three-month "window" within which no letter explaining why the review is after
18 is necessary. If it's beyond three months from the 18th birthday, then the
chair of the review needs to write a letter addressed to the BSA national office
explaining the cause for the delay.
Dear Andy,
Our pack’s having a
problem with our Cubmaster. He’s a great guy but when it comes to stepping up
and getting the job done, he falls very short. As the Assistant Cubmaster, I’ve
been doing all of the Cubmaster duties, but he’s taking all the credit. On
several occasions when he volunteered to head up certain activities he has not,
and if it hadn’t been for other council members, the events would have been a
disaster.
We want to remove
him from the position, and we don’t believe he’s the type of person who would
just step aside (he’s a very proud man and I’m sure won’t make it easy on us).
What are some of the steps that we need to take, to make this as pleasant a
process as we can? (Name & Council Withheld)
My first thought is why are you (and I'm sure others, too) rescuing him? When
you do this, you're in effect telling him that he need change nothing. Yes, I'm
sure your first answer will be "We don't want to disappoint the boys," but
you won’t be doing any disappointing, he will—and he'll be forced to
deal with the fallout from his lack of attention to getting things done. If
he's as great a guy as you say he is, then he'll learn from his self-made
disaster. If he doesn't, then that's the time to replace him.
That said, if you want to replace him now, and gently, then it's your Committee
Chair and Chartered Organization Representative who do this. They meet with him
and discuss how overworked he is, suggesting that he take a position that's less
demanding (e.g., a committee position, perhaps), because the pack can't continue
the way things are. Now maybe he'll "ask for a second chance," and that's OK...
He has a month (no more than that) to straighten things out. Then, if he does
sharpen up, everything's cool. And if he doesn't, then the CC and CR can simply
advise him that, in the absence of any positive changes, would he please take
the other position, because a new Cubmaster is about to be appointed. (If he
doesn’t want another position, then of course he’s simply de-registered, and
that’s that—he can’t stubbornly cling to the Cubmaster position.)
All of this needs to be done eyeball-to-eyeball; there can be no emails!
Dear Andy,
What do we do with a
Scout who can’t or won’t pass the First Class swimming test? He’s a good Scout,
but how do I give him First Class rank? The swimming test is the only thing
holding him back. His mother and I have tried every thing we know, but he just
won’t take the test. (Scoutmaster, French Creek Council, PA)
Just so's we're on
the same page here, "you" don't "give" a Scout any rank or merit badge—He earns
these all by his li'l ole self! That's right, and the Boy Scout Handbook
tells him that he can advance at his own pace... It's all right there!
So, you and his mom
and anyone else involved can stop worrying and stop trying to "encourage" him,
and just leave him alone. If he chooses to finish all his requirements for
First Class, that's wonderful. And if he doesn't want to right now, well,
that's up to him. Obviously, he can swim some, or he couldn’t have completed to
swim test for Second Class. So just back off and let peer pressure work its
usual magic... or not. This is, after all, entirely his choice and no one
else's.
Dear Andy,
Some 30 years ago I
was a Scout, and now my son, age 7, is one, and we love it! He’s earned many
badges and I can’t seem to find a website that shows where they should go. I
need help for both the uniform and on the vest. (Mom doesn’t want to sew them
on only to have to take them off and sew them somewhere else, and our son wants
them on to show his accomplishments—and who can blame him!) Can you help? (Paul
Wesolowski, Three Fires Council, IL)
It's wonderful to
know that the Scouting tradition is now "second generation" in your family! If
your son's seven, I'm guessing he's a Tiger Cub. If so, you have a Tiger Cub
Handbook, and that's your "Bible" when it comes to where badges go. If
there are some that still mystify you after you've checked out the book, tell me
what they are and I'll help you out some more. You can also Google “uniform
inspection sheet” and then select “Cub Scout.”
Happy Scouting!
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