Hi Andy,
In
your
May 10th
column,
one of the
correspondents mentioned that his son going for Eagle
intended to use “Quartermaster ‘Mentor’—a
Scoutmaster-assigned leadership project” for his
leadership requirement. A “Scoutmaster-assigned leadership project”
can’t be used for Eagle; only for Star or Life ranks. For Eagle, a
Scout must serve for a minimum of six months in one or more of a
specifically noted number of positions: Patrol
Leader/
Venture Patrol Leader,
Senior Patrol Leader, ASPL, Troop Guide, OA Troop Representative, Den
Chief, Scribe, Historian, Librarian, Quartermaster, Chaplain Aide, JASM,
and LNT Trainer. “Mentoring” another Scout who serves in a troop
leadership capacity is a fine thing to do, but it’s not equivalent to
serving in position oneself. (Paul S. Wolf, USSSP)
Sharp eyes,
and you're absolutely on the mark! Thanks –
Dear Andy,
I have four
questions…
1) Can an
Assistant
Scoutmaster hold a
committee position also?
2) What positions,
if any,
on a
unit
committee
can the
Chartered
Organization Representative hold?
3) Where can I find who serves
in
what positions
in our troop (our CC won’t show the chartering
roster form to anyone)?
4)
What, if anything, can be done
if
committee
members don’t
follow BSA policies
(e.g.,
drinking
alcohol while
at BSA camps, not
filing
tour permits,
etc.) (Name & Council Withheld)
By the numbers...
1)
Nope. Read page 2 of the
adult volunteer
application,
where it tells you that you can hold only a single unit position, except
for the CR (Chartered Organization Representative).
2)
The CR can be a solo position or may be dual-registered as CC also.
3) Ask your council registrar or, better yet, ask your District
Executive to ask the registrar on your behalf.
This stuff isn't supposed to be some sort of "secret" document!
4)
Several options here: Report this to the chartered organization, along
with a copy of the
Guide to Safe Scouting
with the appropriate citations underlines or highlighted, talk this over
with your troop's Unit Commissioner or in the absence of a UC your
District Commissioner, or go straight to your District Executive
(understanding that only the chartered organization has the actual
authority to enforce this stuff, short of canceling the unit's charter).
Hmm...
Sounds like you and your son need to start shopping for a new troop—one
that sails a little closer to Scouting's True North.
Hi Andy,
The Assistant Scoutmaster of the troop our son’s in has
caused the departure of
several
Scouts and their
families because
he
intimidates the
Scouts.
He’s consistently yelling at
them
over anything and everything, including
his own son.
He even yells at
Scouts
over what they did or didn’t do at events he
wasn't even at!
Many parents have talked with the Scoutmaster about this
ASM’s
yelling and
how he
uses
“intimidation”
tactics, like strutting,
puffing out
his
chest, yelling,
and getting nose-to-nose with the Scouts when he’s
yelling.
Many parents are afraid to say anything, because they’re
afraid that their sons will
be singles out by this guy at a camp-out when they’re not there. The
Scoutmaster’s
talked to
him several times about
the way he treats
the
Scouts,
but the
any
changes
are short-lived.
What do we do when the current Scoutmaster “retires”—as he does plan to
do soon? (The ASM and the Committee Chair are husband-and-wife, by the
way.) (Name & Council Withheld)
Sounds like this Whacko Jacko
channeling R. Lee Ermey (of “Full Metal Jacket, and “Mail Call” fame)
when he should be emulating Ike.
There’s
absolutely no reason why you all should have to tolerate this, but
you'll need to take immediate and assertive action... Since the
Scoutmaster is
ultimately approved (or not) by the
executive officer of the unit’s sponsor (this supersedes even the
Committee Chair and the Chartered Organization Representative),
all of the parents who are
having a problem with this nutso heir-apparent to the Scoutmaster need to immediately
schedule an in-person meeting with
the
head of the chartered organization
(no "email wars"!) to tell
him or her
of your concerns and request that a different person be selected to
become the Scoutmaster. If there’s
a volunteer for this position among you, this should make the process
happen easily. If there’s
any refusal
to make this
change, then you all will need to transfer your sons into a different
troop. (One more point: I’m no attorney or law enforcement
officer, but there’s a good chance that this guy’s behavior would be
considered emotional abuse of minors… You all may want to check it out.)
Dear Andy,
Our
troop is
moving
steadily from adult-run
to a
Scout-run,
Patrol Method
troop,
with the predictable result that it’s
tripled in size in short order and the Scouts’
enthusiasm
is high.
One of the last remaining devolutions of “power” has to do with how
patrols
will
pay for their food on campouts.
Historically,
this has been done by the adults as part of the trip permission form—the
trip coordinator
(one of the dads)
collects the money
from each Scout, and
then the
troop
treasurer reimburses the
Scout who’s assigned to buying the
food for his patrol.
This isn't how we did it when I was a Scout, nor is it what we teach at
adult leader training (of course, some of the
“experienced"
adults involved with the troop
strongly object to
Scouts
handling money).
I’m interested in knowing how patrols should handle
paying for their
food for campouts and hikes, and are
there
problems when Scouts
simply handle
this on their own (meaning that adults had better be
there to "help")
or does it
actually work? (Rob
Harrison, CC,
Atlanta Area Council, GA)
The "secret" to this question is
a fundamental principle of
Scouting: NEVER DO FOR A SCOUT WHAT HE CAN DO FOR
HIMSELF.
In my
own experience as a Scout and several times as a Scoutmaster, when
patrols plan their own menus for a hike or camp-out (as they obviously
should when The Patrol Method's in place), then two Scouts are assigned
to do the food-buying (with a single parent along to perhaps do the
driving), and they then present the total bill to the patrol, for
equal-share reimbursement. It's really no more
complicated than that!
Keep the responsibility where the responsibility belongs.
Dear Andy,
A Scout
recently
asked me what
the symbols
in the three areas of
the
Emergency
Preparedness merit badge are.
I started,
"Oh, that’s
easy! It’s a First
Aid or safety
symbol, a house, and a..." and that’s when
realized I had no idea what the
third group of
symbols
(in the lower right section)
is. I’ve
started
researching this, and I now
know when the badge
was
first authorized,
what the requirements
are,
and so forth,
but I haven’t been able to find any
information
on
what that symbol is! Some people that I’ve asked
have speculated that it’s
debris;
others
think it’s
Morse
code, some say it’s
Ham or short-wave
radio waves, and some say it’s
lighting Can you
help me figure this out before it drives
me crazy? (Ragina Wegner)
You and your friends are
pretty close...
Yup, that's a first aid symbol, a house on its side (hurricane),
and, in the third section,
that’s
Morse code for HELP (....
.
.-..
.--.) along with lightning and what looks
to be a lightning arrestor.
Hi Andy,
You’ve
said
many times
that BSA policy states that a
Scout
can take any merit badge at any age. I must disagree with at least two.
The
age
at which a youth may shoot a rifle or shotgun varies
state by state.
Here in the Northeast, for example,
the approved age for
shotguns
seems to be 13. The exception in some
states is only if
a
parent is with the youth.
Would this exception be part of what the risk management committee would
specify? (Roy Tangen)
Just keep in mind that I'm
providing and
describing BSA policy; not
state or local laws.
So, yes, the BSA states that any Scout can work on any merit badge he
chooses, anytime he chooses to, and that remains intact and without
exception. Regarding further policies and/or
statutes outside BSA authority or policy, you may just want to check
with your local council—as
you've observed, the risk management or health and safety committees can
probably help
you
out.
Dear Andy,
My husband and I have been putting
in 40
or more
hours a week
in the
past two months at our council’s camp
(It’s
been mostly neglected for the past
ten years). We started volunteering
on this project some nine months ago; in the past month alone, we’ve
managed to get donations totaling over $5,000
to improve the camp, plus added approximately
$1,000 of our own funds to fix broken stuff at the camp.
Our problem is the
camp
ranger, who’s, so we’re told,
been there for around
ten years. Until
last year,
when he got a new boss, he’s
been
allowed to do whatever he
wanted,
when he wanted to,
so it wasn’t until last year that he was actually
required to put in a 40-hour. My husband and I have
pretty much been doing his job for him for the past few months because
he refuses to do the things his boss has asked him to.
Well, I’ve
finally had enough…
Last week, my husband and I ran the yearly volunteer cleanup
day, with a large
turnout of 50 (compared to priors of maybe five).
But
the ranger didn’t do a
thing to help, and didn’t even speak to the volunteers.
Well, on Sunday we headed back up to camp with our
kids,
to finish
the clean-up, but after
about 30 minutes the ranger shows up, proceeds to rant at us in front of our
kids (including some language that would make a sailor
blush), and then
actually
threaten to call the sheriff if we didn’t leave immediately.
Well, we did leave, and promptly called
his boss,
who told
us that he called and yelled at her as well. She
also told
us that she and most of the people on the properties committee, plus
some executive board members, and even the new
council executive
all want to fire him, but they
can’t,
due to some
BSA policy… She can’t tell
me exactly what
it is; all she says is,
“Everyone in the council office wants him fired, but BSA
policy is standing in the way.”
Do you have any idea what policy they’re talking about?
Or, who do I call at
the BSA
national
office
to lodge a complaint?
Thank you so much for listening and your advice.
(Name & Council Withheld)
Camp rangers are often hard to come by.
They frequently lead pretty lonesome lives most of the year, away from
"civilization" with long-distance "bosses" and visitors that sometimes
don't respect the property and facilities and their hard work
maintaining everything year-round.
In my experience, there are just two kinds of camp rangers:
Excellent...and the kind you've described.
What you've encountered is commonly called "the camp ranger syndrome"...
They think they "own" the camp and its property and get surly,
belligerent, and—as you've encountered—downright
offensive when anyone "trespasses" on their "turf." Ultimately, the
only possible resolution to this is to fire this kind.
As for this "BSA policy"
you've mentioned, frankly, I have no idea what the folks at your council
service center are talking about!
If the council
powers-that-be aren't willing to dump this guy, I'd sure consider
putting my volunteer energies and time elsewhere.
You sure don't need nonsense like this in your lives!
Hello Andy,
We have a difficult situation in
our troop… Our
Scoutmaster and Senior Patrol Leader don’t get along.
They’ve managed,
with the help of several very good Assistant
Scoutmasters, to make their working relationship tolerable, but it’s a
strain at best.
The Senior Patrol Leader
is about to complete his next rank has asked me—the Committee
Chair—if
he can
have his Scoutmaster Conference with one of the Assistant Scoutmasters, with whom he’s
more comfortable.
I’ve read much on your
columns about
the purposes of the Scoutmaster Conference,
and how important it is that the Scoutmaster
not delegate this responsibility, but is it allowable in some situations
(like this one)? I and several of our more senior ASMs
feel that this would be best, but we
want to
stay
within BSA policies
and
guidelines.
(Craig Stephens)
Some years ago, I was a Jamboree
Scoutmaster. Jamboree troops, as you
probably know, are "provisional" units, made up of Scouts from
throughout the council, most of whom have never met one another before.
They're usually assigned to patrols, and assigned tent-mates pretty
arbitrarily. As we were building the troop and
going through the assignments, two Scouts who had been assigned to the
same patrol and given the other as a tent mate approached me,
independently... each told me that he absolutely couldn't stand his tent
mate and would I please reassign him.
To each one, separately and without the knowledge of the other, I said
I'd consider the request, but only after he reported back to me about
his current tent mate. I wanted him to find out
what the other Scout's favorite school subject was and which he hated,
what sports he played and what position he played, what professional
sports he followed and who were his favorite teams, what was his
religion and what church did he go to, did he have any brothers or
sisters and how did he get along with each, what home troop he was in
and what was his favorite camping trip, what his favorite food, video
game, dessert, chewing gum, movie, TV show, and athletic shoe brand was,
and he had a week to find all this out and report back to me.
Well, each did as assigned, and when
each was done, I told him that I'd considered the request they'd made
and he'd be reassigned.
But of course you know what happened... Each one said that, well, maybe
he'd keep his tent mate after all...
At the Jamboree, they were inseparable...
Where you found one, there was the other.
They had the neatest, cleanest tent in the troop,
"covered" for one another if one happened to lag behind, and when we
were short on snacks, for instance, volunteered to share one and give
the second one away.
When the Jamboree was over, they stayed in touch with one another and
even attended
each other's Eagle court of honor,
even though their troops were in different towns.
Got
where I’m goin’ here?
Good. 'Nuff sed.
Dear Andy,
A Scout
has recently
completed over
six hours of
service, with
his
eighth grade civics
class. He
personally
collected over 450
lbs.
of food
for the hungry and then
created a
documentary
on the number of
homeless/hungry.
But our troop’s
advancement coordinator
has stated that school
service
projects can’t count
for rank service hours. He apparently considers this a “double-dipping”
infraction.
The Committee Chair and Scoutmaster are trying to
research this. While we’re at it, do you have any thoughts that might
help us? (Name Withheld, National Capital Area Council, MD)
First, let’s remember that a troop’s
“advancement coordinator” is a record-keeping administrator; not a
policy-setter. So,
"Scoutmaster approved" is the way to go, per the language of the requirement. Your advancement coordinator has
absolutely nothing to say about this, and
in this specific situation
I’d
encourage the Scoutmaster to sign off. There are no "infractions"
operating here except a too tightly-wound advancement person, perhaps.
These are
boys... They're not Captains in
the Salvation Army.
Dear Andy,
My
sons went from Tiger through
Webelos
and
bridged over to Boy
Scouts… The
13 year-old
is
Second
Class,
and the
15 year-old is
First, going for Star rank. In his handbook, all—every
one—of the requirements for
Star
has been signed off by his Scoutmaster, so he requested his Scoutmaster
conference. He was told, “No… You have to show ‘more leadership’,”
despite this having been signed off. Is this accurate? Can a
Scoutmaster actually reverse himself on a requirement he’s already
signed a Scout off on? (Angela Marino,
Greater
Cleveland Council, OH)
The BSA informs us that once
a signature is in place,
signifying the completion of a
requirement, it's in place
permanently and should absolutely not be withdrawn.
This is per BSA advancement guidelines (that is, it's not my
"opinion"—it's a fundamental principle in BSA advancement).
Moreover, the Scoutmaster's most important responsibility is to train
and guide the youth leaders of the troop.
If the Scoutmaster has failed in this responsibility the Scouts are not
to be penalized for this failure of an adult.
Hi Andy,
In the troop my husband serves as
Scoutmaster, we have
a boy who made a bad
choice and is getting expelled from school,
for bringing an alcoholic beverage to school, to give to another
student.
How
does this affect his chances
of ever achieving Eagle Rank?
(Name & Council Withheld)
Getting booted out of school for a
short or even longer time for something like this isn't the same as
being arrested for a felony or misdemeanor, and so should have no
lasting
effect on a Scout's rank
advancement, especially if the lesson’s learned and
the “debt” is made good.
In fact, right now, this young man needs Scouting more than ever! So
don't abandon him when he needs you most! The school authorities, and
his parents, will mete out all the "punishment" he'll need, to learn
that what he tried to do was pretty dumb. Don't do this to him through
the troop, too—Let the troop be his safe haven.
Have a Scoutmaster conference with him, and let's see if he's learned
anything from this experience—remembering that the most
successful and meaningful such conferences happen when the Scoutmaster
does no more than 10% of the talking and, instead, asks non-threatening
questions that help draw the Scout out and build a level of trust
between himself and his Scoutmaster.
It's also a wonderful tool for letting the Scout know that he can come
to the Scoutmaster for anything, and no judgment will be passed on
him—just good listening and some understanding.
Dear Andy,
This is about “credit
for prior work done.”
Some
Scout
summer camps have badge "prerequisites."
For example, my son attends a camp that requires that a Scout complete
his 20
days-and-nights
of camping prior to signing up for Camping merit badge, and
requires
that a Scout complete his 12 weeks of workouts prior to
signing up for Personal Fitness.
Prerequisites like these don't make sense to me,
since they’re
the culmination of completing the other requirements for the merit
badges.
Wouldn’t
a
Scout's
having
worked
on the
so=called
prerequisites constitute starting work on a
merit
badge? If so, what happens if the badge requirements
change between doing the prerequisites and getting the blue card signed
at summer camp?
More specifically,
my son became a Boy Scout in
2005 and was told that he had to have his 20 days-and-nights
of camping completed
prior to doing the Camping
merit badge
at summer camp, so
he started keeping track of his camping, but in the meanwhile, the
requirements for that merit badge changed in 2007: It now required that all
camping take place at
Scouting
events. My son had
had
a number of significant camping experiences,
however at a non-BSA camp, that
would have qualified toward the 20 days-and-nights he
needs until the requirements changed three years ago.
So, even though he took, for instance, a two-day canoe
trip,
and camping
and hiked that included some significant mountaineering, now his troop
leader says that those
doesn't count, because they weren’t Scouting events.
But my son had
been
relying on the pre-2007
version of the Camping
merit badge,
since that's when he started putting together his prerequisites.
Your thoughts? (Name & Council Withheld)
First,
to your
son:
Don't stress over this. Scouting's all
about camping and hiking, so
you’ll will have ample opportunity to rack up 20 days and nights with
your present troop, and there's absolutely no "badge-earning race" going
on here!
Second to your son: I don’t know who
your Merit Badge Counselor was, for the past more than three years, but
it seems pretty remote that the two of you didn’t talk about the
requirement change at the time it went into effect—over three years
ago. Or, did you not have a Merit Badge Counselor, in which case the
only one to “blame” (if even blame is necessary) is the Scout who
started on a merit badge without starting with a Merit Badge Counselor…
This isn’t how it’s done. Check out page 187 of the handbook you were
using at the time.
As for what’s being
called "prerequisites," I'm sure there's a better word, because merit
badges don't
actually
have "prerequisites." That said, it's not
unusual at all for a Scout summer camp to advise Scouts who plan to
complete certain merit badges while at camp (Camping being an excellent
example) to come with requirements that involve substantial time (like
at least 15 to 20 days and nights of camping already knocked off)
already signed off by their “home” Merit Badge Counselor, so that they can finish the merit badge while at
camp, rather then ending their week with a fist-full of "partials."
On the face of it, I'd have to say they're helping the Scouts; not
burdening them.
Dear Andy,
We had a committee meeting
recently and all
the adults were upstairs in
one room while one Assistant
Scoutmaster
was
with the Scouts in a downstairs room. There also was a 19 year-old brother of
one of the
Scouts
in the downstairs room.
One of our committee members stayed downstairs with the
Scouts because
she
thought they needed
two-deep leadership.
I suggested that
the 19 year
old
brother
should have been able to be the
second
adult, but it seems I was the only one that thought that.
It’s
important we’re
all on the same page, especially this, and I just want to get a
clarification. The
Guide to Safe Scouting says this about two-deep
leadership: “Two
registered adult leaders or one registered leader and a parent of a
participant, one of whom must be 21 years of age or older, are required
on all trips and outings.” Related to this, did
we really need an adult downstairs or could we just all
be upstairs with the door open to hear?
The GTSS says this about patrols (we have two in the
troop): “There are a few instances, such as patrol activities, when no
adult leadership is required.” (Country
Jewell, CC, National Capital Area Council, VA)
Two-deep leadership pertains to trips
and outings; not necessarily to troop meetings at your normal location.
If the committee is meeting in another room, it always makes good sense
to have the Scoutmaster present with the troop, even though the troop is
actually led by the Senior Patrol Leader. Then, when it's time for the
Scoutmaster's report to the committee, an ASM can
briefly take over
for the time it’ll take to deliver
his report and answer questions.
The adult—SM
or ASM—present doesn't have to do much at all... Just provide
some oversight while the SPL and PLs are conducting the troop meeting,
with games, patrol corners, instructions, etc.
On hikes and camping trips,
you'd want to have two trained adults—ideally,
the SM and ASM—along, but that's pretty
much it!
If a patrol meets on their own, or even with another patrol, this is OK,
and no adult "supervisor" is necessary.
Are you
saying it’s
OK to have one
adult
or no adults with the
Scouts
at the patrol meetings? Also, is
there any
situation
in which
a 19 year
old
who is neither
registered
nor
trained can count as the
“second adult” in a two-deep "requirement"?
Actually, I’m not “saying”
it; the
Guide to Safe Scouting
(GTSS) is, and
already provides the information you're seeking: On all
trips and outings, the leadership may be either (1) two registered adult
leaders or (2) one registered leader and one parent of a youth
participant, of which one of the two must be age 21 or older.
Therefore, the 19 year old non-registered person you describe would not
qualify in either scenario (1) or scenario (2). You’ll find this
described as I've just paraphrased on page 1 and also on page 3 of the
GTSS.
The GTSS
is, however, silent with regard to the leadership
required while at a unit's home-base of operations.
Dear Andy,
How much time should a Scoutmaster need
in
advance
in order to approve a Scout’s
request for
service project time.
Can the Scout telephone,
write,
email,
or talk in person
moments before starting it, or is there a
time
notice?
I guess this boils down to
how much time
a Scoutmaster
might need, to decide to approve or not.
For something simple, like "I want to help Billy on his Eagle project
this weekend," this should be a no-brainer decided right then and
there. If it's "I've been asked to be an acolyte at my church, starting
this Sunday," it's also pretty much a quick and easy decision that can
be given right there, on the spot.
If the request comes in the form of an email or letter, the Scoutmaster
actually has some time to contemplate before responding, if he chooses,
and can always advise the Scout to come see him at the next troop
meeting to talk it over some more (personally, I'm not an advocate of
back-and-forth emails or letters in situations like these).
But, if you're asking if the BSA has
stipulated some sort of standardized
or “official”
dwell-time between request and response, the answer's
no.
The Scoutmaster's responsibility here is
to encourage Scouts' enthusiasm for helping others, while simultaneously
assuring that the help is aimed in the right direction.
This can be done as spontaneously as the Scoutmaster is capable of.
Dear Andy,
On
the
merit badge
blue card,
when a
Scout wants to start a merit badge
does the “Signature of Unit Leader” have to be his Scoutmaster?
Two scenarios come to mind… First, when a Scout’s
at summer camp as a provisional camper
and wants to work on a
merit badge
that he hadn’t previously decided on (or even, maybe, thought about before camp), can
the provisional troop’s
Scoutmaster sign the
card for him?
Second, we recently had
a group of
Scouts form an informal
“troop”—made up of Scouts from various
troops but not led by a
registered
BSA
adult volunteer—to go on a backpacking trip of their
own. While on the trip, they
worked on
merit badges using
blue cards
signed
by this un-registered “Scoutmaster,”
and when they returned this “Scoutmaster” signed the
cards
as completed
and
presented merit badges to the Scouts.
Now the families are expecting
in the troop
to
consider these valid and file formal advancement
reports with our council service center, and
I’m having concerns about this—I
think some rules have been bent and
I
question the validity of these
merit badges. Any
thoughts about either or both situations? (Kane Kanetani, SM, Aloha
Council, HI)
First situation:
If a Scout, while at summer camp, decides to work on a specific merit
badge, it's not unusual for someone other than his home Scoutmaster to
sign the face of the merit badge application (aka "blue card")... After
all, if the
home
Scoutmaster doesn't happen to be at camp
during a particular
week, we don't want
this
to hold back
or limit a
Scout.
Typically, the adult troop volunteer at camp for whatever particular
week either has a bunch of pre-signed blue cards or simply has blank
cards that he signs on the spot.
This is pretty much a simple procedure that's been employed by lots and
lots of troops, for years. Or, in the case of a provisional
Scoutmaster (sometimes a camp staffer), of course he’s sign a blue card
for a Scout to start a merit badge, again because we don’t find tricky
ways to hold back Scouts’ enthusiasm (besides, this is hardly
“illegal”!)
To address your second situation, we need to start here: Merit badges
themselves are earned while working with a registered merit badge
counselor or with a Scout camp staffer who has been authorized for the
summer to sign off on merit badge completions. Merit badges can only be
earned in one or the other of these two ways. I'm sorry that, somehow,
your Scouts were misled into believing that they could earn a merit
badge from someone who isn't a registered merit badge counselor. If this gentleman then went to a
local Scout shop and bought the merit badges to give out to the Scouts
he was, of course, totally out of line in doing so.
(Personally, I'd make sure
my Scouts never, ever went on another
trip with him—He's way too much of a rule-busting
maverick for me!)
So, what do you do now?
Not sure... What supposed merit badge(s) did the Scouts purportedly
"earn"? If Eagle-required, then you may take a hard line and tell the
Scouts that they need to go see an actual registered
counselor and get an authorized signature before getting the actual
merit badge card and an official troop advancement report. If it's
something more innocuous (Basketry or Woodcarving come to mind, and I
hope I haven’t bent Basketry and Woodcarving Merit Badge Counselors out
o’ shape!), I might be tempted, but I
still don't think I'd let it slide—This
is an important lesson that Scouts need to learn, about following
blindly after
rule-breaking, self-important jerks.
Dear Andy,
I'm trying to settle a
little
argument about which
unit committee
member is responsible for obtaining
medical forms. Also, is
there a link
that details
the responsibilities of each
unit leader and
committee member?
Thanks. (Domenick Salvemini,
UC, Patriots’ Path Council, NJ)
Check out the BSA book,
Troop Committee Guidebook.
Or the
Cub Scout Leader Book.
These will give you general responsibilities of unit committee members.
As for medical forms, when, at a committee meeting, the Chair asks for
someone to volunteer to distribute and then collect these from the
parents of the boys, and/or from the adult volunteers, and somebody
says, "OK, I'll do it," the job's half-done already.
We need to remember that Scouting is a volunteer organization, that
needs people to volunteer to take on the responsibilities of getting the
jobs taken care off. Leave the "turf war
mentality" at the doorstep.
Dear Andy,
This is about the BSA’s swimming
requirements and
Swimming merit badge alternatives…
One of the
Scouts in our troop has some
physical challenges, primarily with involuntary muscle movements and
control, which don’t
really make a big difference in most Scouting activities.
He's currently
12 year old,
strong, with
great stamina, but coordinating
large muscle groups can
be problematic
for him.
Swimming (in the traditional sense) is difficult at best, as is
coordinating enough muscle
groups to tread water or to keep afloat using standard strokes. He
seems to have virtually no body fat, as he constantly works to
counterbalance his involuntary movements. He can swim underwater quite
well, but struggles on the surface. I’m sure that, as written, there’s
no possibility that he’ll
be able to meet the
swimming
requirements for
Second or First Class,
let alone the swimmers test or
Swimming
merit badge until he's nearly 16 or 17, and that seems too long
a time
to arbitrarily restrain an otherwise exceptional
Scout
to
Tenderfoot
rank.
I can understand delaying the merit badge for a while, even as it will
preclude him from most Scout water
sports,
merit badges,
and on-water
activities, but what are
his
options concerning the
Second Class
swimming requirements, the swimmers test, and other First
Class swimming requirements?
I'd appreciate any input you might have, or any direction you could send
me. (Dave Pertl, ASM,
Buffalo Trace Council,
IL)
I sure wish this Scout lived
nearby... As a still-active swimming instructor, I'll bet I could have
him swimming in about an
hour of coaching! Which leads me to this point: His
family needs to find him a qualified swimming instructor who can
diagnose his problem and help him fix it.
With strength, stamina, and drive to succeed, he'll be swimming the way
he'd like to in short order!
If, however, this is a permanent disability of some
sort, and can be certified in writing by a licensed medical
practitioner, then he can pursue alternative swimming requirements for
Second Class and First Class ranks that are both rigorous and
pre-approved by the district or council advancement committee.
Refer to the BSA book,
2010 Boy Scout Requirements,
for how to proceed via this avenue.
As for Swimming merit badge, this isn't
mandatory to reach the rank of Eagle: Hiking and Cycling are approved
alternatives.
BTW, the only one approved by the BSA to
"delay" a merit badge is the Scout himself.
No one else has the authority to decide for any Scout what he wants to
earn, or when.
Happy Scouting!
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