Dear Andy,
I was reading the
current Scouting Magazine and learned about the Cub Scout 75th
Anniversary Award. I’ve looked at the BSA website, but was unable to
find any information regarding this award. What are the requirements for
earning it? (Rodney Brow, CS Roundtable Commissioner & Den Leader-Pack
74, Black Hills Area Council) ward.
Actually, there'll be
four awards—for Cub Scouts, Webelos Scouts, Cub Scout leaders, and
Webelos Scout leaders—plus a "commemorative" that can be simply
purchased. The requirements are being finalized right now, and will be
published at the "Top Hands" meeting of council Scout executives, in
August. This means everything will be available by your Pack's
September program kickoff! Tell 'em you heard it here, first!
Hi Andy,
My nephew will be
receiving the Arrow of Light award soon and I'm very proud of him. I am
not that familiar with the ceremony but I know he’ll be receiving the
“Arrow.” He no longer has grandparents, and I want to get him something
special but I also don’t want to overshadow the award he’ll be receiving
from the Troop he’s joining. Do you have any suggestions? (Jodie H,
Proud Aunt)
Congratulations to
your nephew, and I'm delighted to learn that his aunt will be attending
the ceremony, too. He's quite a lucky young man, to have someone like
you in his life. A very appropriate gift from a special aunt would be
an item he can use as a Boy Scout, like a Scout pocket knife or
multi-purpose tool. The local Scout Shop at your council's service
center keeps these in stock. Don't buy the most expensive one, because
there's a pretty good chance he could lose it somewhere along the way
(he's a boy, we must remember). But, no matter, what delightful
memories he'll have of a special ceremony and a very special woman in
his life!
Dear Andy,
Recently, I went to
my Council Service Center asking the process to register Merit Badge
counselors for our Troop. They gave me the basic information about
completing the adult application, and so on, but they also told me that
if a person was interested in counseling for a merit badge, he or she
had to pay the annual BSA registration fee. I had made my research on
the Internet before asking my council about this, and everywhere I
looked it said that there was no fee for counselors. But they told me
that the National Council had sent a notification in January, stating
that beginning this year counselors had to pay. Is this accurate? Is
there any other Council that does this? And if that's not the way things
are done, is there any official BSA publication I can get that confirms
the no-fee for counselors policy.
Also, a group of
leaders (including myself) of our council are developing a new Website
designed to inform our local leaders (since we live in Puerto Rico,
there are very few Websites dedicated to informing about BSA stuff in
Spanish). We’ve been reading your column for months, and want to ask you
for permission to translate it and start posting it on our Website.
Thank you for your dedicated time to the Scouting movement. (Armando
Negron, Assistant Scoutmaster, Troop 96, Ponce, PR, Puerto Rico Council
661)
Mucho gusto, Armando!
According to my own council, and according to national BSA policy of
many, many years' standing, if one is registered as a Merit Badge
Counselor ("code 42"), there is no registration fee. Unfortunately, the
BSA Adult Volunteer Application is silent on this, and so policy and not
the application itself must be referred to. Coincidental with this,
Merit Badge Counselors do not "accrue tenure" toward "veteran" status,
either -- the other edge of the sword, I guess! So, to check this out,
I called the BSA national office in Irving, Texas. But, the good little
“Scouting soldier” I spoke with in the registration office there
“stonewalled” me—she literally refused to answer the question. Instead,
she referred me back to my own council. But, pit-bull that I am when it
comes to getting questions like this answered, here’s what I’ve dug up
on my own and here’s what my local council’s registrar provided...these
two, combined, will kill this nonsense your own council’s giving you.
Read on...
First, there's a BSA
national book titled ADVANCEMENT COMMITTEE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES (you
can buy it at your local Scout Shop, or order it through the National
Supply Division—www.scoutstuff.org). In that book, in the sub-section
titled "Qualifications of Counselors," it says (this is an exact quote):
"Merit badge counselors are not required to pay a fee if they are only
registered as merit badge counselors."
Next (here's the
heavy iron!), there's a book the national office publishes for use by
council registrars, titled (you guessed it) "REGISTRAR'S PROCEDURE
MANUAL." And here's exactly what it says (this is another direct
quote): "All adults serving as merit badge counselors must be registered
as a Merit Badge Counselor, position code 42, in the local council
through districts by completing the Adult Registration Form.
They may
pay a registration fee, multiple, or
pay no fee. (This
is optional*.) However, they must complete the adult application even if
no registration fee is paid, for the purpose of processing their name
through the computer system. They must be at least 18 years old and
qualified to teach the merit badge subjects that they want to teach."
* Note: The
"optional" part is for the volunteer; not the council. This absolutely
does not mean that it's the council's "option" to charge a fee or not.
It means that if a MBC has another registered position in Scouting, he
pays the fee for that one, BUT NOT FOR BEING A MERIT BADGE COUNSELOR
TOO, or ONLY.
So, if your local
council folks are still blowin' smoke about some letter or notification
"from national" that counters this, there's just one thing to do: Tell 'em
flat out – LET'S SEE THAT LETTER! And, when they can’t produce it,
“game over, man!”
Finally, I'm deeply
honored to learn that you've been reading my columns, and I'd be
thrilled to have them translated into Spanish! I'd do this myself, but
all I know in Spanish is how to find my way to
el baño! Here's what I
do ask, though: Please include the "copyright" information as well as
the actual text, and if you'd like to use my caricature (Yes, that's
really me—not just some sketch!), let the identification and copyright
information apply there, as well. When your website's up and running,
let me know, so I can visit!
Dear Andy,
I’m a Scoutmaster. We
have a Scout who’s a candidate for Eagle, and I’ve already signed on the
“Scoutmaster’s Conference” line, but the Eagle “packet” hasn’t been
turned in to the council for review, yet. This Scout has had some
“issues” in the past; yet, he’s completed all requirements for Eagle,
per the Boy Scout Handbook. He’s not a strong leader, and he’s shown
poor judgment in the past. I’ve spoken to him about this, various
times. Then, about a week ago, I was contacted by the Cubmaster of the
Pack, who told me that, when his Webelos Scouts recently visited our
Troop meeting, this Scout, along with two others, used profanity and
scare tactics when speaking with the Webelos Scouts about proper
uniforming at Troop meetings. I have no tolerance for such behavior,
and I’ve already spoken with all three Scouts. I’m having them each
write a letter of apology, as well as a “composition” on the specific
parts of the Scout Law that they violated. My question is this: Do I
have the authority to rescind my signature from the one Scout’s Eagle
rank application, since his actions are clearly not what I would say are
in the “Scouting Spirit”? I’d want to give him a period of time, and
detail how his attitude and actions must change. (I must admit, it was
very difficult for me to sign off on his Eagle application at the time
of the conference, yet I felt I had no solid ground to hold him off, and
had this Cubmaster come to me sooner, I would have not signed off on the
Eagle application.) I’m going to speak with our Unit Commissioner this
week as well as the Eagle Coordinator for our council, to get their
thoughts on this and understand where my authority rests. (John Brennan,
SM, Troop 66, Pomperaug District, Connecticut Yankee Council)
Your question is not
(thank goodness!) in the arena of "rules" but, rather, about how to deal
with the growth and maturity needs of an individual Scout. Of course,
the first question I have to ask is: As Scoutmaster, where were you when
this “incident” at your own Troop meeting took place? But, that’s not
going to help this Scout. So, here are my Scout-related thoughts on
your dilemma...
It's an emotionally
difficult thing to contemplate the notion of "un-signing" a rank
application, especially for Eagle, so let me first put your mind at
ease: YOU CAN’T DO IT. That’s not “Andy’s Rule”—That’s a BSA national
policy. A rank or requirement earned (and signed for) stands. Period.
But, that still doesn’t help this young man. So, read on...
A while back, after I
put my signature on the Scoutmaster's Conference line for First Class
rank for one of my Scouts, he proceeded to instigate a rock-throwing
fight at our campout! Ouch! But, rather than "un-signing," I talked with
the people who would be sitting on this young man's board of review.
They agreed to bring up this incident in the review and, if necessary,
tell this Scout that the board would be suspended at that time, to be
reconvened in 30 days—during which time this Scout would be expected to
"show Scout Spirit" in some very specific ways. This was a pretty
diplomatic way to handle it, I thought, and the Scout did rise to the
occasion. And, 30 days later, he had a successful board of review. He
went on to reach Eagle, and we never had this particular behavioral
problem again (although, if truth be told, he did need further
counseling in other matters related to both leadership and Scout Spirit
– and, thank goodness, he did learn!).
To deny a Scout the
opportunity to sit for a board of review, for any rank, is a difficult
course of action to follow. There’s a fairly good chance you could
"lose" this young man entirely. As a consequence, he may well
experience regret and possibly resentment for the rest of his life, to
say nothing of having lost the true meaning of Scouting in his life. If
your Scout has written his letter of apology, and his “composition” on
the Scout Laws—which are the justifiable consequences of his actions,
then don’t you think it should be considered that his debt has been
paid? The question remaining is: Has he learned from this experience?
This can be determined in the board of review by asking him about the
situation... What happened, what were the consequences, and what did he
learn? If his responses satisfy the board's members that he's "learned
a lesson here," then the result should be unanimously positive. If not,
then the board needs to "take a recess" and tell this Scout—in very
specific terms—what they expect from him, in a precisely stipulated
time-frame. Then, the board can reconvene at the stated date and review
this young man's progress toward the goal of "showing Scout Spirit
in his daily life." But, the board must be very specific, and provide
actual behavioral guidelines. It's not enough to say "we want you to be
nicer..." The board must give him actual behaviors...like "we want you
to show Scout Spirit by training three new Scouts in the Troop on how to
XXX and we also want you to use the word, 'Sir,' preceding every
conversation you have with an adult leader of this Troop.” (I'm just
making this stuff up, you understand—Create your own list of behavioral
requirements, appropriate to the exact situation.) Also, this is a
TROOP problem; not a District or Council problem. Keep it inside the
Troop. And help this young man succeed. This might even involve a
special conference with his parents, telling them of the board's
decision, the reason why, and their expectations that these parents can
help this young man achieve. Get everybody on the same side—the side of
this Scout. And be sure to let this Scout know, in no uncertain terms,
that you believe in him and believe that he will be the Troop's
next Eagle Scout! B-P put it something like this: "Treat a Scout not as
the boy he is today but as the man you expect him to become." My
thoughts are with you. I believe you've got a young man to save
here...and I believe you WILL!
Hi Andy,
I'm about to
"commission" my Commissioners and I’m looking for a suitable certificate
and words. We "invest" them with the power to open and close courts of
honor; they’re to be a "friend of the unit;" they’re "officers" of the
council... Do I need to be properly invested by my Council Commissioner?
(like papal succession and ordination) Should I “bless” them with my old
fishing vest? Or make a special "vesting" vest? Is there an official
certificate? Or can I make up our own? (George Fosselius, DC, Mount
Diablo-Silverado Council)
You've gotta start
reading my "back" columns! Here’s what you’re looking for, worth
repeating...
"‘Commissioning’
Commissioners isn't mysterious. It's a brief ceremony that ideally takes
place at a Council's or District's annual meeting. As you’ll remember,
Commissioners aren't elected; they're appointed...so, we want to
"commission" them—that is, install them in their office. This can be
done by the DC, for his staff, or, if it includes the DC (or DCs) as
well, it can be done by the District Chair or the Council Commissioner
(or an ACC), or by the Council President. Presenting a certificate is
always appreciated. And here's a simple "Commissioner's Oath" that all
being commissioned can repeat after the person leading the ceremony:
Raise your right hands in the Scout Sign and repeat after me...
- On my Honor...
- I will do my best...
- To
fulfill my responsibilities...
- To my District and my Units...
- To help the units and leaders in my care at all times...
- To keep their membership strong...
- Character-building alert...
- And program straight."
Meanwhile,
your council service center can get you the certificates you
need (talk to your DE)—they're available through the BSA
National office.
Dear Andy,
In
"Advancement Committee Policies and Procedures," under Boards of
Review, it states: "When a boy satisfactorily completes his
board of review for a rank or an Eagle Palm, tenure for his next
rank or Eagle Palm begins immediately." Does time served in "a
position of responsibility" after achieving Second Class rank,
but prior to completing requirements for First Class rank,
quality for the Star requirement: "While a First Class Scout,
serve actively for four months in one of more of the following
positions of responsibility..." The Scout I have in mind here
earned Second Class on 6/30/03 and served as Troop Librarian
from 7/23/03 to 2/04/04, then earned First Class on 11/24/03.
His total time as Troop Librarian was six months and 12 days;
his time in this position after completing First Class was two
months and 11 days. So, if tenure, as defined by THE OXFORD
ENGLISH DICTIONARY-UNABRIDGED is "The action or fact of holding
anything; the possession of a position, power, or office; a
term," then for the next rank began immediately upon completion
of his successful board of review for Second Class, does the
entire time served in the position of responsibility count as
served in that next rank, First Class, as required for his
advancement to Star Scout? Does that service count as "while a
First Class Scout," since his tenure for his next rank—First
Class—began immediately after the previous board of review?
(The Admiral)
This is much
simpler than you've made it appear, and I can definitely help
you out...
You've
already noticed, I'm sure, that, to begin with, there are no
leadership requirements for the ranks of Scout,
Tenderfoot, Second Class, or First Class. Moreover, there is no
"tenure" requirement for the rank of Scout, the only
tenure-related requirement for Tenderfoot is the 30-day physical
fitness improvement requirement (10b), there is no tenure
requirement for Second Class, and there is no tenure requirement
for First Class. Tenure begins only once a Scout has reached
the rank of First Class. At that point, the
tenure-in-leadership requirements for the remaining ranks are
very specific:
-
STAR: "While a First Class Scout,
serve actively for 4 months" (Req.5).
-
LIFE: "While a Star Scout,
serve actively for six months" (Req.5).
-
EAGLE: "While a Life Scout,
serve actively for...6 months" (Req.4).
The date of
the successful Board of Review for the rank of First Class and
the remaining ranks is the date the new "clock" starts ticking.
Four months (and that means months; not 30-day periods or
anything else) later, if the First Class Scout has held an
appropriate leadership position, he has met the leadership
tenure requirement for Star. And so on...
To re-look at
your question, No, there is no "back-dating" (or whatever you
want to call it) of leadership tenure. That is, time served as
a leader in an appropriate position PRIOR to obtaining the rank
of First Class does not "count" toward requirement 5 for Star
rank, because the exact wording of the requirement is "WHILE A
FIRST CLASS SCOUT..." Of course, this same stipulation applies
equally to Life and Eagle as well.
Now, to
answer a question you haven't asked, but need to be equally
clear on: Yes, a Scout can be completing requirements for
Tenderfoot AND Second Class AND First Class concurrently—The
only stipulation here is that he receive these rank advancements
in the appropriate order: Tenderfoot first, Second Class next,
and First Class after Second. Go it? Good!
And “The
Admiral” writes again...
Dear Andy,
I have a few
more questions...
-
Where can I
find a complete list of BSA publications? I’m most interested in
information on policies and procedures.
-
Is there an
avenue through the BSA—an “appeals process” of sorts—for dealing
with questions or problems with Troop leadership, or does the
Chartered Organization have total responsibility here?
-
Is it
possible to contact the BSA national office directly, or is that
information (phone numbers, address, names, etc.) not available
to the general public?
Thank you
again. (The Admiral)
- The BSA
publishes a catalog titled, "Library of Literature/Audiovisual
Products" (No. 70-080A), that you can obtain from your council
service center or by calling the BSA Supply Division at
1-800-323-0732 or by visiting
www.scoutstuff.org.
- Your best
resource for dealing with unit-related questions or problems is
your District's COMMISSIONER STAFF—a group of dedicated unit
service volunteers many of whom have already "walked the walk"
and can be of immense help in facilitation resolutions.
- Of course
the Boy Scouts of America's National Office is an open office!
It's in Irving, Texas (a suburb of Dallas)—Check the "White
Pages" or call Information, or visit the BSA website at
www.scouting.org. HOWEVER, be aware that each
Council, including your own, is an independent corporation not
"owned" by the BSA. Councils take direction from the BSA
National Office, but are not "managed" by it. Overall
management is local, through a volunteer President and Executive
Board, and day-to-day management is handled by a Scout
Executive, who is the top salaried employee of the Council. So,
if you’re thinking about “reporting” or “appealing” or some
such, you’ll need to start with your local council—trying to
skip past your local council is sorta like what happens when you
try spittin’ into a fan!
Dear Andy,
We just returned from
a Cub Scout Family Camp, where my son—a Tiger Cub—was allowed to begin
working on his World Conservation Award. I was told that the award
requirements vary by Cub Scout level, and I’d like to know where I can
access more information about the WCA—It’s not in the Tiger Cub
Handbook, and I haven’t been able to locate anything Online. Can you
refer me to some information, so he can complete the requirements?
Thanks! (Laura Luter, Den 3 Parent-Pack 28 Tiger Cubs, New Port Richey,
FL)
The reason why you're not finding any WCA requirements for Tiger Cubs is
this: There aren't any! As my sponsor, the U.S. Scouting Service
Project (among many others, by the way) describes: "The World
Conservation Award provides an opportunity for individual Cub Scouts,
Boy Scouts, Varsity Scouts, and Venturers to...preserve and improve our
environment. The Cub Scout version of the World Conservation Award can
be earned by Wolf or Bear Cub Scouts, and by Webelos Scouts." If you
check out the requirements, you'll see that they’re based on the Wolf,
Bear, and Webelos "books" and utilize specific opportunities within
each. So, I'm guessing your son's a little bit ahead of the curve, and
he’ll be better off waiting on this till September, when he'll start on
the Wolf Cub Scouting trail.
Hi Andy,
In my son’s Webelos
Den of four boys, all earned the Arrow of Light. Then, the Den Leader
had nothing more for them to do (according to him), so they were given
the option to cross over to Boy Scouts, and they did, but this was
before the Pack’s annual May graduation and advancement ceremony in May.
I’d like for the boys to celebrate with the Pack, still, and I need a
idea for a ceremony theme for them to do. They’re now in official Boy
Scout uniforms. If you have any ideas, please send them my way. Thanks!
(Brian Chacon, AWDL, Pack 688, Whittier, CA)
So, the question is:
What might be done to recognize former Webelos Scouts who are now Boy
Scouts, at a meeting of their former Pack? If I have that right, maybe
there's a way to encourage other Cub Scouts to "go the distance" and
become Boy Scouts, too! Since Pack meetings are "for and by the boys,"
maybe a brief presentation by these new Boy Scouts, on some of the
things they've learned since joining their Troop, would do the trick...
not necessarily something they say, but more along the lines of
something they can show or do or demonstrate. Or, maybe they can be the
color guard, and conduct the meeting's opening ceremony. Then, after
they've concluded their presentation, you and the Cubmaster could
present them with a Boy Scout item, like a pocket knife or compass.
That said, I'm having
trouble trying to figure out why Webelos Scouts wouldn't have gone
"across the bridge" in a special ceremony... After all, the Pack's
schedule is supposed to be adjusted to fit the progress of the boys in
it, and not the other way around. I sure hope some precedent isn't
being set here! Moreover, May is much, much too late for a graduation
to Boy Scouts -- That's supposed to happen in February, or March at the
very latest, and for some very specific reasons! That process has been
in place for 15 years now, and I hope that Pack can get in step with the
times!
Hey Andy,
I’ve been asked to a
Pack’s Blue & Gold Banquet, and the leaders have asked me to open the
meal with a short prayer. Do have a resource for Scout prayers? (Joseph
Howes, UC, Casco Bay District, Alfred, ME)
I do recall an old
book along the lines of what you're asking about, but that was way back
in the early 60's, when I did my first turn as a Scoutmaster. It's
probably years out of print, so maybe something like this might help...
Heavenly Father and Master of all Scouts, we here join together this
evening to celebrate in Blue and in Gold. We ask Your Blessing upon us
all here gathered, as we thank You for the Blue of clear skies and
placid waters, the Blue in the flag of our country, which we cherish,
and of the uniforms of the Cub Scouts and their leaders and parents,
whom we celebrate here tonight. Likewise, we thank You for the Gold of
mornings afresh and of wheat fields of plenty with which You have graced
this land we call home, and the Golden promise of brighter tomorrows for
our sons, ourselves, and all of our children. Bless the food we will
share, to strengthen us as we carry out our duty to You and to our
country, and Bless all who cannot be here with us tonight, that they may
yet embrace the comfort of Your peace. Bless our nation and its
defenders, both here and in lands far away, and strengthen our own
resolve to "Do Our Best" in all ways.
May God Bless us
all, and America, and...
Happy Scouting!
Andy
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