Here’s a letter
from concerned parents. But before I offer my own “two cents,” I’d love
to hear what YOU, my READERS have to say… Please give me
your “take” on this one:
Andy:
The Boy Scouts
are designed to encourage morality, but many of the songs they sing
contain the word “heck.” “Heck” is just a slightly less offensive
version of “hell.” Why is this word included in songs for Boy Scouts to
sing? In my home, it’s considered a curse word, and when my son’s Cub
Pack sang a song with it in it, he pointed out that this was a word that
they should not say. I found it was in very poor judgment for the
leaders to teach the children this song. Then, when I found this same
song and others like it on Scouting web sites, I was surprised that this
type of language was apparently thought to be an acceptable way for
children to speak. The Boy Scouts should not be letting the lowered
standards of our society corrupt the way they are leading our children.
Children should not be allowed to sing songs containing words that are
just a slightly softer version of cursing. We have spoken with our
Cubmaster and voiced our concern, and we were told that our child could
either not be involved in the campfire or not attend the campout. Why
should our child miss out on the fun because he has higher standards
than his Cubmaster? (G&AI)
In the arena of
Reader Responses, quite a few of you wrote to me about the Scouter who
had visited the Jamboree’s Merit Badge Midway in a vain attempt to set
them straight. Here are two that capture the flavor of what you all had
to say – one brief and one a little more detailed…
Dear Andy,
Regarding your mid-September reply to the Jamboree Merit Badge Cop:
Excellent response. Thanks, and keep up the good work. (Michael A.
Morris, ASM, Troop 25, Greater Saint Louis Area Council, MO)
Hi Andy,
I enjoyed your policy-based reply
to the Scoutmaster about Merit Badge completion. I’ve personally run a
“Merit Badge College” with over 350 Scouts, and I’ve heard the same
"questions" from Scoutmasters that think a Scout MUST make it his life’s
work to earn a MB! A number of MBs require that a Scout know First Aid,
and CPR is a skill that’s repeated in several MBs, but shouldn’t be a
problem for a Scout who know this stuff. In my experience, most Scouts
can show that they have the skill in less than three minutes! After
that, it’s the same action over and over again. Your help to many
readers keeps Scouting going in the right direction and reminds us old
guys what we’re here for. Thanks! (Don McDow, UC)
Now, on to this
month’s letters…
Dear Andy,
I’m a Cub Scout
Roundtable Commissioner. Over the past couple of weeks, I’ve been
looking for an electronic template of the Cub Scout Roundtable Planning
Guide. Any idea where I can find one? Thanks! (James Riley, Honest Abe
District, Abraham Lincoln Council, IL)
I've not seen
this anywhere online...yet! So, in the meanwhile, you might want to try
your Council Service Center, starting with your District Executive.
Another resource: the Scout Shop (just buy one for a couple o' bucks).
Dear Andy,
I’ve been
approached by a Tiger Cub mom who’s having problems with her son’s Tiger
Den Leader being "too gruff." This seems to be this particular Den
Leader’s personality. How can I tactfully tell her to not be "too
gruff"? (Kathie Murphy, UC, Circle Ten Council, Dallas, TX)
"Gruff" is a
subjective description. Even the "gruff" General Patton was considered
"lovable" by his family! So, have it checked it out, but NOT BY YOU!
You're a Unit Commissioner, and so your contacts with the Pack are at
the Pack level—the Committee Chair and Cubmaster—not the Den level.
This is a job for the Cubmaster or the Pack Trainer, or someone else
within the Pack; not a UC. Your job is to consult with and
advise the Pack leaders in the event that there truly is a problem.
Dear Andy,
You might call
this “The Sins Of The Father.” In our Troop, we have a First Class
rank Scout who’s volunteered to be a Den Chief with our "sister” Cub
Scout Pack. Unfortunately, this Scout’s father alienated a lot of people
when he was the Pack's Committee Chair, and now many parents in the Pack
are expressing concerns about his son being a Den Chief there (because
of the father’s past behavior; not the Scout’s). I’d like to give this
boy a chance, but I'm not confident that the father will stay out of the
Den's business. This man has ignored both Troop and District policy on
several occasions, and I’d expect that trend to continue. The Scout
himself has successfully completed our council's Den Chief Training, and
the precedent’s been solidly established: Our Troop already has five
other Scouts who are the same age and rank serving as Den Chiefs in this
Pack. How would you handle this? (Name and Troop withheld.)
The three key
people who should be involved in this conversation are (1) the
Scoutmaster, (2) the proposed Den Leader, and (3) the Scout himself, of
course. This should be a three-way meeting between them, in which the
Scout can describe what he'd like to do and why he's interested in being
a Den Chief rather than hold some other leadership position. It's
equally a chance for him to meet his possible Den Leader, who can ask
him questions that will help determine how well (or not well) they'll
work together. This can include a question along the lines of, "How
will you be getting to our Den meetings?" Possibly followed by this: "I
don't expect your parent who drives you to stay—I expect your parent to
leave, and then return when the meeting's over, to pick you up... Will
this be OK?" The Scoutmaster, of course, can observe the whole thing
and then de-brief with the Den Leader (alone) after that conversation,
and then de-brief with the Scout. If the fit doesn't look like a good
one, the Scoutmaster can approach the next Den Leader, and so on. This
is really between the Den Leader and the Scout, and I'd, frankly, ignore
non-involved, non-leader parents.
Being a Den Chief
is one of the most rigorous leadership positions in all of Scouting, and
should be approached by gaining as much advance knowledge about the
individuals as possible!
(As a
“fail-safe,” if the parent is truly a problem, the Den Leader can
actually get a legal restraining order to keep him out of her house—Yes,
this might seem like a pretty drastic measure, but it is within the
realm of possible courses of action.)
Dear Andy,
What a neat
column! Here are my questions: My son went to the National Jamboree this
summer—Does he wear the Jamboree patch on his current regular uniform?
He also earned the five segments that go around the Jamboree patch—Do
these also go on his uniform? (Mary Stambaugh, Troop 27 Mom, Cimarron
Council, Enid, OK)
You betcha! He
sure does get to wear those—and proudly! The Jamboree patch itself is
CENTERED above the RIGHT POCKET of his Scout shirt (measure for the
segments and have the bottom of the segment on the bottom about two
inches above the "Boy Scouts of America" strip).
Hey Andy,
Why does it cost
over a hundred dollars to buy the requirements for Tiger Scouts? (No
name)
There’s nothing about the requirements to earn the Tiger Cub
badge that requires spending one penny! Could you have accidentally
typed the word, "requirements," when you may have meant to say
uniform? If so, the total price for the shirt, pants, socks, belt,
buckle, cap, neckerchief, slide, and five basic patches comes to
$92.70. If you then compare the prices of the actual main garments,
you'll discover that they are very close to what would be paid in most
stores for the same articles of clothing; however, they're not only more
durable but they don't "go out of fashion."
Uniforms—which
have been a part of the world-wide Scouting movement for nearly a
hundred years, and worn by 28 MILLION youth around the world today—serve
at least three important purposes: They give the boy a sense of
belonging, they level the playing field (from a "fashion/designer"
point-of-view), and they provide a place to show individuality
of achievement. So, if this is what you were referring to, that will be
the best $92.70 you ever spent on your kid—I promise!
Dear Andy,
How can my son
earn the God And Me award? (Ginger Hawkins)
All of the "God
and ..." awards are provided by "PRAY"—Programs of religious Activities
for Youth. Check out their website, and I believe this and all related
questions will find answers:
http://www.praypub.org/main_frameset.htm
[A Note From The
NetCommish: You can also find information on religious emblem
programs at
http://usscouts.org/scoutduty/index.html and
http://usscouts.org/advance/boyscout/religious.html. ]
Dear Andy,
I’m looking for
written solutions to “Two-by-Four” and “Traffic Jam”—group problems in
the Venturing Leader Guide. I love the challenge, but I’d like to know
the answers going into the meeting. Do they publish anything like a
“teacher’s edition”? (John Walker, Venturing Crew Advisor, Crockett, TX)
If there were a
single solution to these or the other initiative or cooperative games,
there might be something like a "here's the answer" supplement. But
there isn't, and that’s what continues to make them both challenging and
FUN! It's up to each group to work out a solution for themselves, and
there are several ways to skin each cat—just like “The Great Egg Drop”
and the others! Just keep in mind that, as Advisor, your job is NOT
to coach the Venturers all the way to a solution; it's to coach them
just enough that they get the idea of interdependence and then make it
work for themselves! Advisors don't "lead" with answers, the way
Scoutmasters sometimes do; Advisors do it by asking the right
questions. Relax and enjoy!
Dear Andy,
A friend of
mine has a 1929 Boy Scout Handbook in prime condition. I’ve seen it.
It’s in great condition. How can I find out what it’s worth? (Arnie Lanckton)
Check out eBay
and compare it to others frequently offered for bid.
[A Note from The
NetCommish: You can also visit the website of Jim and Bea Stephenson at
http://www.thestevensons.com.
Jim is a retired professional Scouter and one of the best recognized
appraisers of Scouting memorabilia. A list of Scouting Memorabilia
dealers can be found at
http://www.kirkdoan.com/sosmd.htm. Of these I would recommend a look
at Chris Jensen's
http://www.steamwood.net.]
Hi
Andy,
I’m a new
District Commissioner, and I’m looking for software that allows me to
track my units, leaders’ information, and re-chartering. Do you know
where I could find a tool like this? (Charles R. Alvarez, DC, Tustumena
District, Western Alaska Council, AK)
Try
www.recordkeeper.com and
www.scouttrack.com and see if these are any
help.
[A Note from The
NetCommish: We maintain a list of Scouting software at
http://clipart.usscouts.org/Software.asp that may be helpful.]
Hello Andy,
I was just
checking out the local Scouting website for Alachua County, Florida, and
came across your site. I’d like to get back into Scouting as a Merit
Badge Counselor. I earned my Eagle about 23 years ago, and was an ASM in
Jacksonville. Can you tell me what Troops are in the NW part of
Gainesville? I downloaded the BSA Adult Volunteer Application, but
apparently I have to be registered with a local unit. Thanks! (Scott
Crosby)
An Eagle Scout
who'd like to get back involved in the greatest youth movement in the
world? Wow! That's FABULOUS! To be a Merit Badge Counselor, you need
to be a registered member of a local BSA council (not a specific unit,
like a Troop or anything), and you'll fill out two applications—the one
you've already found (BSA ADULT VOLUNTEER APPLICATION) and your local
council's MERIT BADGE COUNSELOR APPLICATION (they're different from
council-to-council, so don't bother looking for a "general" one on the
Net).
Actually getting
started is pretty straightforward...
First, go to the
BSA's website:
http://www.scouting.org/ On the right side of the
home page, in the purple block, you'll see the words, "sign up for
Scouting." Click on that, and then enter your information. Then click
"submit," and it'll take you to a brief description of each Scouting
program. At the bottom of that page, you'll see this clickable
blue-underlined text: "local council service center." Click on that,
enter your ZIP code and hit the "Find Local Council" bar. This will
take you to the name, address, phone, and URL of the council that serves
the area you live in. First, check out their website, just to get a
sense for what they're all about. Then, call them up, tell whoever
answers what town you live in, and ask for the District Executive who
serves that town. When connected, ask the DE for the name and phone
number of the Merit Badge Dean (if they have one) or the District
Advancement Chairperson (If the DE offers to take your name and have
someone contact you, accept the offer!). Then, tell 'em what Merit
Badge(s) you'd like to counsel, and the rest will happen pretty
quickly. By the way, annual registration fees are waived for MBCs!
Dear Andy,
Our son has been
in Cub Scout Pack 289 for a year. He’s earned several badges but I have
no idea where to put them on his uniform shirt. Is there a proper place
to put certain ones? Do you have a picture of a shirt you can send to
me? He has his first meeting in a couple of days and I’d like to get
all of his badges ironed on. Thanks! (Rashelle Groskopf, North Platte,
NE)
Yup, there are
several places you can go for exactly what you need! And let me say
right now that you're terrific parents, for wanting to get this right,
and going the extra mile to make sure!
First, refer to
your son's Cub Scout book. Look on the insides of the front and back
covers and 90% of your questions will be answered, because these are
actual templates for proper positioning (yes, the inches up or down do
matter!). In addition, you can "Google" cub scout uniform inspection
form and that will pop up a pdf file that you can print out—this
form gives you EVERYTHING!
HenpeckedGuy@aol.com wrote: Andy, I just left
the Georgia-Carolina Council and will be part of the National Capital
Area Council this year. Next year its back to the Transatlantic Council
(I'm in the military). Due to deployments and such, last year was the
first year I could attend a University of Scouting. This year I'll
attend a Pow Wow and University. Does the Cub Scouter Award require
tenure in one Pack, or can it be split? Thanks.
Tenure is by
position; not by unit. Hold, let's say, the Cubmaster position in two
(or more) Packs for the specified time, and it ALL counts toward the
Cubmaster Award!
Hi Andy!
I'm hoping you
can help me find an online set of job descriptions for Key 3 District
positions. I'm an eight-year unit Scouter. We have a new District
Executive on our council’s paid staff and I believe he's being expected
(by some of our district’s unit Scouters) to do much more than his job
requires. They may be right, but I don't think so. We have a great bunch
of folks in the district; the only problem I can see is that the new DE
might be getting a lot of undue disrespect. If the tension keeps
building, we may lose a good man who can do the job, just because
someone hasn't set us straight. (Keith Singer)
I didn't have much luck finding online descriptions, either. But there
is a booklet published by the BSA's National Supply Division titled
THE DISTRICT (No. LT33070B), that will give you what you need. You
can order it by simply calling 1-800-323-0732.
That said, it’s
the job of your District Chair and District Commissioner to set straight
any misinformed Scouters in your district, and it’s the DE’s job to show
his spine and say, “No, that’s not my area of responsibility.”
[A Note from The NetCommish:
Pine Burr Area Council has an excellent set of job descriptions for
Commissioners at
http://www.pineburrscouting.org/commish/descriptions.htm that may
help you out. From this list you'll see what some of the Key 3 job
responsibilities are. Cascade Pacific Council has a similar set of descriptions at
http://www.cpcbsa.org/commissioner/descriptions.html. Finally,
Bay Lakes Area Council at
http://www.baylakesbsa.org/council/files/The_District_Commissioner_Staff.htm
has a listing that includes expectations for a District Executive.]
Dear Andy,
I’m taking Wood
Badge, and our patrol project is going to be about recruiting. My
section deals with Varsity Scouting. I’m looking for methods used to
recruit Varsity teams. Can you help? (Paul Kempton, Crossroads of
America Council – WB-116C-14-05 - Buffalo Patrol)
Here's where your
District Executive can be a real help! The BSA has literature
specifically dealing with how to recruit and develop new members and new
units. Call your DE and describe your need—This is your very best
resource!
("I used to be an
Owl, and a good old Owl, too...")
Dear Andy,
Is it “legal” for
a Troop to make up some rules as to what they consider to be “active in
your Troop”? It’s hard for our Troop’s leaders to approve rank
advancements at Scoutmaster Conferences if the Scout has the merit
badges or requirements for his next rank but seldom shows up for Troop
meetings, campouts, or community service projects. Thanks! (Troop
Committee Chair)
You asked an
important question. Many Troops try to deal with this particular issue,
in various ways—some are good, some bad, and some rrrrrrrreally ugly!
Here are my own thoughts on this topic…
It's dangerous,
usually pretty darned illegal, and ultimately frustratingly
fruitless for a Troop to try to create rules for the "be active..." rank
requirement. More often than not, they have to bypass the rules they've
made again and again because each situation is going to be unique.
Just to show you
what I mean, let's say that a Troop has a rule of 50% attendance at any
combination of Troop meetings, outings and campouts. Pretty lenient,
right? Now let's put a Scout in the hospital for four of the six months
between Star and Life ranks, and let's also say that he attended 100% of
all Troop meetings and activities before he was hospitalized. No way
can he meet the 50% rule! But also no way are you going to deny him the
rank advancement, if he has everything else done, right? You bet!
Why? Because (remember the Cub Scout Motto—It still applies!) he did
his best. So to recognize his very best efforts, which falls short
of that arbitrary rule you made up, you ignore that rule in favor of
Scout effort and Scout Spirit—and you know you’ve done the right thing!
Or, how about the
Scout that, because he was selected for the annual "Scouting Report to
the Governor," missed the one Troop activity that would have put him
over 50% and he comes in at 49%. What will you do? You'll advance him
to the next rank, of course!
How about the
Scout who’s the MVP of his high school basketball team, and they're in
the division finals, playing every other night, for weeks? Are you
really going to "ding" him? Of course not!
So, "rules" don't
work. That's why some pretty wise folks in the BSA's national office,
many years ago, didn't themselves write some set of rules on this. They
realized that no set of rules would work. Honor their wisdom. Don't
try to "fix" what really isn't broken at all!
Now, let's talk a
little about the specific "problem" you've referred to—That of a Scout
who, other requirements accomplished, just isn't showing up. My first
question would be this: What happened to your Scoutmaster's
Conferences? They don't happen just when advancing ranks, you know.
They happen all the time, and at least monthly. So, when a Scout starts
not showing up for Troop meetings and other events, that's a perfect
time for a Scoutmaster's Conference, to find out what's going on in the
Scout's life that this is happening. In other words, waiting till the
proverbial eleventh hour and then realizing that you have an "absentee
Scout" who is otherwise ready to advance is definitely not the way to
go! So, if this has been going on for four months (First Class to Star)
or six months (Star to Life) and your adult leaders haven't done
anything about this, shame on them; not the Scout!
Finally, what
does "seldom" mean and why is it happening? Scouts, as I'm sure you
know, "vote with their feet." If meetings are dull and boring, or
community service days don't include some recreation, fellowship, and
FOOD, too, why the heck should they show up? Because you said so?
Nope. That's not why boys show up. They show up because what they're
going to do is FUN (fun-with-a-purpose, but don't tell 'em that!).
Here are "3 Ps"
for your Troop: PROGRAM PRODUCES PARTICIPANTS.
Do you remember
this question, in my July column?…
Hi Andy,
I visit older folks in nursing homes. One of the residents I contact is
a 97-year-old Eagle Scout. He was active in Troop 121, somewhere in
Buffalo, NY. His name is Peter Kronenthal. He loved Scouting, and now is
just sitting around being lonesome in a nursing home. If you can find
some information on him, I can do some cheering up! (Don McLeod, Former
Scoutmaster, Troop 9, Sullivan Trail Council, NY)
Well, here’s a
letter I received just the other day…
HiAndy,
PETER KRONENTHAL is my GRANDFATHER,
and I’m an Eagle Scout, too! He lives at the Elcor Nursing Home in
Horseheads, NY. I can be contacted for information about him through my
email address:
msdds@aol.com (Mark Schuller)
What a wonderful
way for this column to come to and end!
